Was RJJ at 168lbs the most unbeatable fighter ever?

Subjective nonsense. Toney looked like the best to many.

 

Floyd was unbeatable at welter during the time he spent there, but he wasn`t unbeatable at that weight against some of the welter greats of all-time.

 

He couldn`t close the disance on Jones at all and Whitaker could do anything Toney could P4P.

 

He was for his time.

if we do it over all time then every fighter is beatable, someone will have someone’s number

 

Maybe.

 

Impossible to say. Watson had improved massively since the McCallum fight, and re-improved for the return, Benn was looking like a world-beater on his WBC reign with that duck and weave (arguably more effective than Frazier's), Rocchigiani went on to be robbed against Maske and Michalczewski (dominated both), and 19 defences in about three years or so is the most active reign in history, globe trotting 12 rounders against all comers, backyards and huge hostility etc. Certainly up there. But its all subjective.

 

I like the counter-punching, harder hitting Hagler of 77-78 over the 80s version, kid.

 

well yeah nobody is coming out of pro boxing’s 100 year + history without meeting their Kryptonite

has to be done for who was about at their time

 

both atgs.

monzon ultra padded record. Hagler done it the hard way. Fab Four beat hearns, Duran and should have beat Leonard.

cant believe folks now cr*p on hagler, laughing about him losing to a welter. Jeez. The mans a legend

 

Why? His best performances range from Minter to Sibson. In 77-78 he was being pushed close by Vito and Briscoe.

Hagler was better in the 80s. And he wasn't better than Monzon.

Nicely done how you avoided the rest of my post.

 

I love Hagler by the way. I wasn't crapping on him for losing to Leonard, I'm just pointing out how flimsy an argument is to say Monzon only beat WWs, when Hagler's best win is a WW and he lost to one too.

I literally have him as the third best MW ever. Above Robinson! He's just not better than Monzon.

 

I have hagler above monzon. Losing to a welter. The welter was srl, a legend, who won a belt at light heavy. I had hagler winning. Monzon padded record, hagler had to fight for his shot.

 

You're right.

Eubank Jr however...

 

Jr is the man!

 

Monzón fought hard for his shot too. He beat a bunch of contenders (none very note worthy, like) before he fought Nino for the first time but he was top 10 by ring. Either way, his best wins came after winning the title, and the amount of gimme fights isn't that much higher than Hagler's.

Keep it in mind, though. The legend was coming off a near 5 year lay off. Sure he had one fight but in it he looked like absolute **** and was dropped by a past prime national level fighter. Hagler was definitely past prime, and it's a really close fight, but he still lost to a welterweight. Which was my point.

Also, Leonard never won a belt at 175, he won a belt at 168 and was given a belt at 175.