Right. I didn't see Ali take many shots from either guy. Frazier on the other hand hit Ali almost at will...sans their 2nd fight.
If you go back and study the film segment by segment, you will probably find that they did hit him sometimes. Certainly if you fight a puncher, you have to assume that you will get hit. If you don't think that you can take their power, then you don't take the fight if you can help it.
A little thing called Corona Virus put an end to my plans to go travelling. If you don't like my peaches,don't shake my tree.
You can't fight a puncher and not get hit. You can fight a puncher and minimize getting hit, but your chin ultimately has to be up to the job.
Why don't you just leave like you claimed you would?[/QUOTE] Why don't you produce some content worth reading?
Implying that you are smarter than the rest of us has the exact opposite effect. Either you can actually provide some decent arguments or shut up.
Just an old man with a shameful amount of dignity and a senselessly higher opinion of himself over a internet forum don't scoop to stupid peoples level they'll beat you.
I'm an average poster ie somewhere in the middle,and I'm not the one lecturing posters about big punchers. Q How can you be certain all those you named hit harder than Max Baer? ps I've been providing arguments here that have provoked discussion for some time, about14 years actually, posters have liked what I posted enough times to give it a thumbs up14,781times So Johnny 2 Months Here & 95 Posts . Why don't you drop the posturing and lose the tough man act?