Marciano and Baer are the only ones I consider big punchers, but they were not in the same league as Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis. And it took Marciano 8 rounds cause Marciano wasn't exactly the definition of a very skilled boxer and thus not the most accurate.
Marciano could punch just as hard as Liston, Foreman, Tyson, and Lewis. He landed plenty of punches on Louis too prior to the knockout. Louis's chin and skill is what allowed him to last so long. Not Marciano's lack of being able to find his target.
Baer might just have been the hardest puncher of all the heavyweight champions. There certainly isn't a Baer + category!
I gave him a 9 out of 10. You don’t make it through that many fights against some of the monster punchers he faced and only getting stopped twice by two hall of famers unless you have a damn good chin.
Holmes and Louis are basically a wash for me but Louis seems to cop a lot more scrutiny. Both could be dropped and hurt but both recuperated very fast and were very hard to finish to state the obvious. Holmes would often survive for a little bit then end up attacking while Louis at times came thrashing right back with potential fight ending intent. Holmes admittedly never had to take the sort of sustained punishment Louis did in the first Schmeling fight. If anything it's a good mark for his chin vs a bad one.
And to take that kind of prolonged beating for 12 rounds while only being 22 months into your pro career and with 8oz gloves besides. Max Schmeling might not have been a devastating hitter, but he was a calculating sniper. The only other time Louis was halted was on the opposite end of his career when he was 37 years old and facing the man with the highest KO percentage in division history.
Had to dig this up from a while back but thought you 2 would've loved to read this. "Although Joe's greatness in many areas is well acknowledged, his chin is generally underrated. This is particularly true in comparison with Jack Dempsey but also in general evaluations. Louis's chin seemed indestructible up to and including his toe-to-toe thrashing of hard-hitting, iron-jawed Max Baer. But after power-hitting Max Schmeling stopped him in 12 rounds with an almost limitless number of deadly rights (Max is said to have stated that he'd never seen anyone take such punishment) Joe seems to have lost a little durability. Still, his chin remained solid. The men who would later floor him (Jimmy Braddock, Tony Galento, Buddy Baer, Jersey Joe Walcott and Rocky Marciano) were all excellent to great hitters."
It was argued to death, without longer video we'll never know. Besides, Walcott fight was past Louis prime. Louis knocked out Walcott in second fight. Are you accusing me of not watching fights? Using Rocky fight is ridiculous, Louis was beyond shot in that fight...
Get real, Baer was good for his era, but he's no match for the monsters I mentioned. He ain't even close.
Trying to assess a fighters chin is perhaps best judged again the worst exposure it faced in its prime and now it weathered it. Louis took a sustained beating from an All-Time puncher in Max Schmeling. To my memory Joe did not have an defensive answer for Schmeling right, and took it round after round. Flush. For me, if Joe had a weak chin, that fight would have ended a lot earlier. Against All-Time great punchers I give Joe a 7. Against everyone else I would put him at a 9. That would make him an 8. In my rankings, this means he has a solid chin, amazing recovery and heart, but he was not invulnerable.