March 8 1971, Madison Square Garden, Joe Frazier vs 1988 Iron Mike Tyson, 1

Why yes. Yes I do.

 

Who did George Foreman beat who suggested that he could beat Joe Frazier? Who did Ali beat who suggested that he could have beaten Sonny Liston?

 

Point is Frazier beat Ali. Case closed. Ali better that anyone Tyson fought
Besides that Frazier NEVER quit Tyson did on multiple occasions.

 

I myself would favor Frazier but Lamotta has a point, just because fighter A never beat someone on Fighter B's level doesn't mean he can't. For instance, what indication was their that Spinks would beat Ali, Douglas-Tyson, Foreman-Frazier, Norton-Ali?

 

But Ali was so old when Spinks beat him. Half a schell by then. But yes I see where your coming from. Also like I said the fact that Tyson outright quit numerous times tells me in itself he cant handle what Joe is bringing. Also are we forgetting a washed up I'll prepared Holmes aside Tyson never beat a great HW. Never happened let alon FOTC Frazier. Hey listen I think Mike was great. I was there from the very beginning and he had a great career regardless of what I've pointed out but hes probably the most overrated fighter of all time if you examine his entire career and peel back that whole baddest man on the planet thing.

 

It's not "case closed" because your own argument contradicts you. George Foreman also never beat Ali but he dismantled Frazier. Then he LOST to Ali and then he beat Frazier, again. And quite easily, I might add.

And let it not be lost on anyone that leading up to 1973, Frazier had a clearly superior resume to Foreman. That's no question.

 

We all know Frazier wasnt the same after FOTC. Look bottom line did Frazier ever quit No did Tyson quit Yes multiple times. Frazier beat the greatest HW of all time. For all his hype and rep Tyson couldnt even beat the best HW of his generation.

 

Thats the way to go! The solution of all fantasy fights.

1. Don the Trump cap
2. Shut down the mental state to full "simpleton mode"
3. Chose 1 fight you like
4. Babble some blabla
5. Blare out the result

Lets try.

1. Imaginary , check
2. , check
3. Foreman, the closest puncher @ Tyson level, made Frazier look like a jojo!
4. The Foreman fight is all you need to know! If slow George made him look like that, what is a Tyson gona do?
5. Tyson via TKO

Works pretty well.

 

Works pretty well for you when your using a 1973 fat Frazier who was never the same after 71. How many times did Tyson quit?? How many times was he knocked out?? Yea ok. Another guy buying into the Tyson superman myth

 

You´re telling 71 Frazier is going to give 74 George Foreman a fight?

 

Frazier by a mid-round KO, after Tyson wins the first 3 or so rounds.

 

Did I? I didnt think I said anything Foreman. This thread is about Frazier and Tyson isnt it or are you looking to start a new thread? If so why not just do it otherwise try an stay on topic.

 

I'd put my money on Tyson for a stoppage in the early rounds.

 

Well, he did that quite a few times in real life.

 

In what fights to your opinion did he overcome a speed, power and chin (or size) disadvantage?