In most sports the current guys are better than previous eras, why would boxing be any different?

dude you crazy? Are you seriously saying that we need a mercy killing because of our opinion? How are you going to make a objective argument when you wish death upon us because we disagree with you?
You are losing your chills.
And are you seriously suggesting that Maradona would still be world class today?

 

Why are there no special tennis or soccer players that manage to do that?

 

How is it a fact you donut?

What will you be saying in 30 years?

“Tyson Fury would be a one round job for.......”?

 

No cause i would never say that holyfield or lewis would be a round job for fury. Fury would just brutally outclass them.
But the champion in 2080 would kill fury in a round ,unless boxing undergoes a drastic change of some sort.

 

Messi isn’t more skilled than Diego was. But he’s a better athlete, playing alongside better players, on better pitches, and in a more advanced position.

If you want to be objective, try to switch over their careers.

Of course we can never know what would have happened, but it’s certainly fun to ponder.

Use your mind and think about the following scenarios:

How would a peak version of Diego Maradona have done, had he have played in the Barcelona team that Messi played in, alongside Xavi, Iniesta, Suarez and Neymar etc.

How would a peak version of Messi have done, had he have played in the mediocre Napoli side of the 80’s, on poorer pitches with harder defenders and less protection from the referees.

 

Oh no, you can’t say that mate!

Fury would definitely have done a one round job on Jack.

Do you know why?

Because all of the old footage of Jack is in black and white.

Ha!

That’s what we’re dealing with here.

 

Why would he?

He’d have had to have gotten by Louis first.

 

Not all of the fighters in the 30’s were terrible.

We know they weren’t.

 

Which periods are you comparing?

 

Great for a few seasons then off the rails because he didn't have the mentality to keep doing it. Same reason Ronaldinho was bombed out of Barca. Messi stands above Maradona because of his drive and mentality to constantly keep producing 50 goals a season.

Are you aware that Xavi, Iniesta & Neymar have all left and Messi has still continued to score 50 a season? Seems you're crediting them for all that Messi has done.....

 

The two sports are completely different.

The circumstances are completely different.

If you can’t see the differences, you’re just completely ignorant.

You are the guy who just wants to believe that today’s fighters have to be the greatest of all time, due to the progression of different sports. Yet if you just opened your eyes and watched the fights, you can see that clearly isn’t the case.

I can just randomly choose one division that smashes your ignorant theory to smithereens.

25 years is one quarter of a century.

25 years is a LONG TIME in any sport.

List today’s top 15 MW’s.

Go and list the top 15 MW’s of the 90’s.

Do a quick comparison.

Now tell me that today’s MW’s are superior.

You’d be laughed off the forum. And your theory only needs one exception in order for it to have holes in it.

If that’s not enough, we could go through other divisions and find more exceptions.

After a while, there’d be LOTS of examples to show you that many guys today weren’t as good as their 90’s counterparts.

And when that information registers in your brain, you’ll realise that boxing cannot be compared to football, sprinting, swimming or any other sports.

It doesn’t matter if Usain Bolt could have smoked Linford Christie in a sprint.

That is NOT EVIDENCE that today’s fighters are better than all the fighters of the 90’s.

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Maradona wouldn’t still be world class today?

Obviously you’re trolling again. Unless your lockdown LSD has kicked in.

 

To do what?

 

What are you talking about?

This is how you ruined the debate last week.

You’re either trolling or you’re an absolute ignoramus.

How can you say with certainty that the 2080 champ would kill Fury in a round?

Based on what?

Would the 2080 champ have 4 arms or something?

Would he be a T1000?

Would he be allowed to use weapons?

Because unless any of those things happened, it wouldn’t in any way be a given that the 2080 champ would be able to kill Fury in a round.

The 2080 champ would still be a human being with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Under the current rules, (The only likely future change would be less rounds) he would just be a fighter like every fighter before him.

The outcome of the fight would not be determined by the fact that the 2080 champ was modern.

The outcome of the fight would be determined by HOW THEY’D HAVE MATCHED UP STYLISTICALLY.

The champ from 2080 won’t be 8ft tall.

He won’t weigh 700 pounds.

He won’t have a 250” reach.

He’ll be a human being.

No new techniques will have been invented.

Whoever he is might not be as tall as Fury.

He might not be as fast as Fury.

He might not be as skilful as Fury.

We won’t know. But you can’t just make an assumption that he’ll kill him in a round.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.

It’s based on absolutely nothing.

A man fighting a man will always be a man fighting a man.

The 2080 champ could get wrecked in under 5 rounds by Mike Tyson.

He could get wrecked in 2 rounds by someone who emerges in the next 10-25 years.

We don’t know.

You are an absolute dumpling.

 

Regarding Maradona’s mentality, that’s a good point. But that’s another thing to ponder altogether. The point I was making, was that he had the ability to be able to compete with the best players today. If (yes, it’s a big if) he’d have been fit, he’d still stand out as one of the greatest players on the planet.

I have huge respect for Leo. I’ve been watching him since 2004 when he was a kid and I’ve been lucky enough to have seen him play in the Nou Camp.

Yes, his consistency is incredible. But the point I was making, is that he’s always played alongside the best players in the world.

He had Ronaldinho etc.

Diego didn’t have that.

He had an average group of players who had no belief and who were struggling to survive.

It’s fun to ponder how Leo would have fitted in to that era.

Put him in those 84-86 Napoli teams and see if he scored 50 goals of season, with guys who weren’t world class players, playing against opposition who were out to hurt him on tougher pitches, with referees who weren’t as professional and as vigilant.