Floyd's resume.

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    He's right too & you know it
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Log off excuse maker.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Mayweather was scared ****less of Pac & Margarito the latter was proven on video LOL
     
  4. MVC!

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    Way better than Manny Pacroid's and he almost damn near knocked Manny Pacroid out!!!
     
  5. Glass City Cobra

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    I am sick and tired of the Castillo and maidana discussions but since you are being polite I'll give you my 2 cents and leave it at that.

    The Castillo fight can indeed be scored for him if you value aggression and sheer number of punches landed overall. The thing is, boxing matches weren't always scored on this basis in history and you might have seen some surprisingly different verdicts if we had compubox back then. If we are relying on the numbers game, then you can just gloss over the number of jabs mayweather landed, he jabbed Castillo's head off. People claim Golovkin beat Canelo in their 2nd fight due to the number of jabs but many of those same individuals NEVER want to talk about the jabs Mayweather landed on Castillo.

    Why is this important? Because if you are outlanding your opponent in jabs you are controlling the pace of the fight. Rounds are not won simply based on number of punches thrown. Making a guy miss, Using head movement, keeping your opponent at the range you want him to be and dictating the pace are all things the judge will notice and like before scoring a round.

    Percentages also show whose effective and who isn't. Castillo's threw a lot of power punches yet his % landed was barely above Mayweather. Again, this shows how numbers don't tell the whole story. Castillo threw 377 punches but only landed 173, which means he MISSED more than 200 of his punches. Which means Mayweather's defense was obviously effective but no one talks about that.

    In addition, despite outlanding mayweather in power punches, he was only 2% more effective. Once Again this shows just how good Mayweather's defense is AND it shows that Mayweather can have nearly the same amount of effectiveness and accuracy despite throwing about half the number of punches as Castillo. This tells me Castillo was either very sloppy and/or Mayweather had way better defense than people give him credit for.

    Final thoughts are that Mayweather vs Castillo could have been scored the other way but it definitely wasn't a "robbery". It was a very very close fight and anyone overlooking jabs, defense, and effectiveness doesn't understand boxing or simply hates Mayweather.

    The Maidana fight was even worse if we're being honest. He was very sloppy and it LOOKED effective but the numbers people put on a pedestal show that he wasn't. It was actually the opposite of the Castillo fight. Mayweather actually landed a higher number of total punches landed in addition to landing way more jabs. As for power punches, Maidana threw a hell of a lot but clearly wasnt as effective as mayweather as he only landed 185 to 178. That's a mere 7 punches. Even if we ignore jabs do you think a fight that goes the distance with no knockdowns can be called a "robbery" because one guy landed seven more power punches? And again, the percentages don't lie as Mayweather's power punches landed was 65% to Maidana's extremely sloppy 34%. He simply wasnt as effective as people thought.

    The fact NO ONE ever talks about the rematches only confirms that there is an agenda as no one ever gives mayweather credit for making adjustments and dominating. I would take his detractors more seriously if they didn't repeat the same arguments over and over and never give the guy credit for anything.

    Lastly, Mayweather can call himself TBE if he wants. He has every right to with freedom of speech and anyone who agrees is free to do so as well. Since "numbers" are so important to his detractors why do they ignore statistics showing that he beat the most number of belt holders, that he has the best punches landed vs getting hit ratio in history, etc? You can't pick and choose when numbers are important.
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    Great post! Don't expect anyone here to try and refute it. It will get ignored or someone will come back with jlc and maidana beat the crap outta pbf and got robbed or pbf cheated.
     
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  7. bailey

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    Stop trying to quote what you believe others are thinking and trying to pass it off as a fact.
    It is no debate when doing that and just your opinion which contrary to what you believe is not a fact
    I got bored debating with you because you keep making strawman arguments and arguing with yourself.
    This is another example. You decided in your mind what someone else would think and used that as your basis of debate. Ridiculous
     
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  8. jmarlow

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    His resume is good but just falls short of the greats, Floyds lack of a win against an A level fighter in their prime hurts his legacy, he doesnt reallly have a standout win that he can bring to the tabe to match up with the greats, Ali can bring his wins against Liston and Foreman to the table, Duran can bring his wins against Leonard and Barkley, Pacquiao can bring his wins against Barerra and Cotto, Sugar Ray Robinson can bring his wins against La Motta and Kid Gavilán ect. Floyd just doesnt have that big win to be on the same level as the greats. The biggest names on Floyds record were not in their primes, Floyd said himself Money and health over legacy.
     
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  9. C.J.

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    ROFLMAO Man do do have these hallucinations often Bozo ?? Fairy Fisted Floyd couldnt knock a fly of a cow pattie.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    No my friend the reason why Floyd "won" both those fight was solely because the fight was in Vegas. It would take a miracle for Floyd to lose any decision there. The sad part is people like you still buy the corruption. To say Floyd earned a draw in Floyd/GGG 1 is preposterous
     
  11. C.J.

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    They both DID beat him but as we all know getting a dec win against the Vegas cash cow in the cess pit of boxing would take a miracle. First it was Mayweather now he has handed the mantle to Canelo. The cash cow is 3 points up BEFORE he leaves his dressing room. Maidana did have Floyd in tears after the fight whining &:llorona::llorona: that Maidana had "roughed him up , beat him & bullied him & ref Tony Weekes did nothing to stop him & it wasnt fair" ROFLMAO Floyd was used to Joe Cortez protecting his cowardly ass. But the hired Kenny Bayless for the rematch he never gave Maidana a chance to fight. It was like a Mother Hen protecting her chicks ROFLMAO:meparto:
     
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  12. African Cobra

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    C.J. won’t let it go and try to refute but like all Floyd haters and detractors he will fail again.
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    Many were in their prime such as Canelo, Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales when Floyd fought them all who we’re unbeaten and who after he beat them went on and won world titles in several divisions. Please stop revisionist history. Real history is as follows:


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  14. Babality

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    There's no point in scoring fights for DEFENSE. The only thing that matters in a fight is punches landed, and how hard they are. If a fighter holds his opponent to 10% connect rate and he has a 100% connect rate and they both land one punch, but the guy with 10% landed a stronger punch, that guy is winning in my opinion. There's no reason to give points for defense alone. If you are landing punches cause you are making the opponent miss and you are countering, then score those counter punches, but never the defense itself. I'm not saying Floyd won or lost that fight, but I think the concept of scoring defense is flawed.
     
  15. African Cobra

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    Of course defense matters as it shows ring generalship which is a big factor in scoring rounds. Let me educate you the great Willie Pep won a round in a fight without landing a punch based on his defense and ring generalship.