Your unpopular boxing opinions

Lewis over Holyfield?
Are you joking???

 

Marciano would've lost to the bigger punching non-champions such as Cleveland Williams, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Ron Lyle, etc. I'd give Shavers a fair chance though his durability and losses to non entities even in his prime prevents me from making him favorite.

 

Charles late stoppage on cuts, Bert Sugar stated that Ezzard had the style to beat Rocky and I think he was right. Charles knew how to deal with swarmers but unfortunately was no longer able to successfully implement it at that point in his career.

 

Most LHWs that had succes at HW are underrated. When you look at guys like Fitzsimmons or Charles, they have resume to be arguably in top 15 ever at that division, but they are notoriusly underrated because they were smaller. Had Fitzsimmons weighed 200 lbs people would never question his equality to likes of Dempsey or Marciano. Same with Charles.

 

Another thing - I have Henry Armstrong over SRR P4P and I see him as the GOAT at his size (even over Duran). The more I watch him, the more I am impressed.

 

I agree in part but i think that Marciano had power enough and durability to beat Bruno.
Williams and Ruddock could ice Rocky yes but Marciano could beat both them too, he would have chance with lyle too but honestly after watching his fight with Foreman i think that he would stop Rocky.
Against Shavers Rocky is going Down at least once for sure but Shavers like nearly always will lose, he was not durable enough

 

Nailed it my man! Though I could see Shavers taking 1 or maybe even 2 out of 5

 

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No,they are not in the top 15 at hw much less h2h

Yes and? The size matters you know,it is why we have weight classes

 

I don't care in H2H lists, because they are extremely subjective.

But both of them beat the best full-time heavyweights in the world. That means that they overcame size disadvantage well. Name me 15 HW boxers with much better resume than Fitz or Charles.

 

At hw?
Ali
Foreman
Holmes
Frazier
Johnson
Jefries
Marciano
Louis
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson
Wladimir
Liston
Patterson
Dempsey
All these guys are above them in a hw rank.
Plus the tons of guys that h2h would smash both them

 

I got banned for that comment.

 

It's reasonable to have them ahead, but then:

are not clearly greater.

 

Charles of '49-'51 would be quicker, better conditioned, and overall just a younger, fresher athlete. Faster feet let's him fight his type of fight better, faster hands let him win more exchanges (which he was winning lots whilst old anyway) and the better conditioning, on top of not getting hit as much, means his early lead turns into a winning run down the stretch.

Keep in mind, all he has to do is win 3 more rounds than when he did when he was really old.

 

What are Dempsey and Jeffries' top 5 wins? Coz I guarantee you they ain't better than Charles'. Neither had as many defences as him either.

 

I don't care about your "clearly" part. They are above them at hw