Would Michael Doles have become a heavy weight great if he had not fallen for drugs

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  1. drronnie

    drronnie Member Full Member

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    Even a post prime Doles gave a prime Holy field serious problems. Wonder if he never took drugs and took the training more seriously what he could have achieved.
     
  2. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    His problem was with his weight & that came years before his drug issues. Early and light versions of Dokes used to fly around the ring. Very similar to Holmes. But his hands were much faster and he had a good left hook. but that guy was so fast with balance circling the ring. 10 pounds later, he was a flat footed guy that tried power punching. That great set of wheels was gone. And a much different style fighter.
     
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  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes? No he was fast handed guy and he was big, but his power was mediocre compared to many heavyweights of the time and he would have been edged my 50 percent of the typical heavyweights, as he was.
     
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  4. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. FighterInTheWind

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    I agree with both of you but that hand speed! Faster combos than either Ali or Tyson even, I think.
     
  6. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly, but people overrated his skill set. He was not a Page or Tubbs in that regard, but he handled his business when he had too.
     
  7. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes was lacking two things: punching power and self discipline. With self discipline, he'd have been very good, but not an all time elite.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    And think of the time frame he came along in, along side Larry Holmes! Even at his best, I don't see Dokes beating Larry.