Figuring Out Larry Holmes' Peak

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by RulesMakeItInteresting, Jul 31, 2019.


  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are some great reasons for choosing this year, as Larry looked like the stylistic descendant of Ali and was absolutely stunning against Norton overall (from manifold perspectives). His first (jaw-dropping) effort against Shavers was in some ways more impressive than the TKO in the second fight.

    The only problem I have with pre-1979 Larry is that he didn't seem to get right with stepping into his right hands until the Evangelista fight. He just didn't have a knockout shot.

    The Weaver fight in '79, despite the fact that Holmes was both suffering from a cold and made the eminently stupid mistake of underestimating Mike, was when Larry unveiled the one punch of his that could be considered a power punch: the uppercut.
     
  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always wondered if the Norton fight was Larry still hurting from the rumors of him being a dog (the amateur showing against Bobick). I think the fact that so many doubted his heart made that fight for him, because Norton landed shots in that fight that knocked guys like Bobick silly.

    Overall though, I'm with the people here whom believe Larry overall dominated the Norton fight. Norton was fighting an uphill battle through most of it...though it might have been his own greatest show of heart.
     
  3. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    81 when he hammered Spinks.Awesome
     
  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was awesome. I give full credit to Leon, he was there to fight. But I could see that stoppage coming a mile away. No chance.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Peak was 78 thru 80. Still terrific thru Cooney.
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rewatched the first Shavers fight... Larry was just plain artistic.
     
  7. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    78 to 82 80 IMO is his peak
     
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  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    78-82 he was still very sharp for Cooney. Although I felt he beat Witherspoon easier than some believe he was declining by that fight one year later.
     
  10. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree on Dempsey. I think Larry would school him easier than Tunney did
     
  11. Amos-san

    Amos-san Member Full Member

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    His peak was Evangelista and Shavers Fights. IMO there was the best, technically different Holmes
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I now slightly lean towards Holmes but I don't think using the Dempsey against Tunney is a good measure. He was much past it, had slowed considerably, and was noticeably rusty.