1970s Muhammad Ali vs the super heavyweights?

Goodnight baby! You can disagree with me but please don’t disrespect the Greatest. His legs never went he was not just as fast as previously because of age. He remained a sharp accurate puncher. If compubox was used in his days it will establish him alongside Mayweather as the most accurate with highest connect rates in history.

 

Do you think these guys went through the same hardships from a historical perspective the older guys did which made them more hungry!

 

no

from the book ali by the numbers:

The statistics not only will confirm the offensive brilliance of Ali, it also will reveal the surprising success his opponents enjoyed, especially in terms of landing their power punches. These numbers, especially those accrued after "The Thrilla in Manila" against Joe Frazier in 1975, will graphically explain why Ali's health began to decline in his 30s and why that decline ended up being so profound.

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if frazier floors you then wilder kills you easy.

 

Bro those old guys grew up in freakin usa. You know how hard it is to grow up in soviet russia.

 

how can he have the best chin when he got floored a couple of times by people that are Cw by todays standard when there are heavyweight that never saw the canvas or people that had the size of a middleweight but didnt loose by ko at hw like james toney.

 

Joshua is very inexperienced and clinching is more about being in the right position than size. I also think Joshua is a better fighter around 230 lbs than he is a 250, since he’s more mobile and he gets his punches off faster.

Joshua stands square, doesn’t tuck his chin, and doesn’t move his head. I noticed this a lot when he fought Takam, but Takam couldn’t capitalize, since he can’t punch. When Ruiz started punching with Joshua instead of trying to counter he was landing easily because Joshua’s head doesn’t move. Ali loved punching with the big boys, since his hands were faster and he was very accurate.

Also, Foreman was well aware of the rope-a-dope long before he fought Ali, since Levi Forte used it against him to go the distance back in 1969 and taught Ali the rope-a-dope


Joshua 6’5” 254 lbs vs. Takam 6’0” 235 lbs
Notice how Joshua’s head is always in the same spot.

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Joshua 6’5” 247 lbs vs. Ruiz 6’1” 268 lbs
Joshua even after dropping Ruiz still keeps his head in the same spot and Ruiz starts swinging, since he knows he’ll land eventually.

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Muhammad Ali 6’2” 227 lbs vs. Mathis 6’3” 256 lbs
Mathis before he tired constantly kept moving his head so Ali wouldn’t be able to land easily.

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Muhammad Ali 6’2” 223 vs. Wepner 6’5” 225 lbs 236 lbs
Muhammad Ali kept stepping in range and punching with Wepner with him more often than not beating Wepner to the punch

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did you really just say that size isnt important in clinching

 

BS. Frazier is a superior boxer to Wilder in every way and Wilder won’t last 3 rounds with Smoking Joe. Advice Wilder is not the best evidence to support your hypothesis.

 

He fought a murderers row of opponents and the few times he was floored he got and did the business.

 

To be be honest it wasnt fraziers boxing skill that won him the fight right? It was his freakish power in the left hook.

 

and he did just that and I never contradicted that statement. But toney was never koed and i think only down against jones( a bit of a balance thing) and he fought way past the age ali retired while beeing much smaller then ali. So i think he is a way better suited for goat chin.

i completely understand when you say ali is the greatest but in some aspect it really becomes religious fanaticism.

 

He fought the best 70's Ali and beat him, Foreman had hammered him in-between Ali 1 and 2, he was also hindered with loss of sight in one eye

 

If you cannot recognize Fraizer’s boxing ability, skills and technical ability then as Uncle Roger Mayweather would say “you don’t know **** about boxing”.

 

Toney has a Mohammed Ali and Marvin Hagler type chin. Ali got hit by the hardest punchers in history and did not go down.

 

Its no disrespect, them fighters beat him, were his equals in the ring, only the judges thought Ali beat Norton