1970s Muhammad Ali vs the super heavyweights?

Just because I don't view Ali is a God ? To good to box now is he Olu lol

 

No I just would rather not discuss stupidity. It’s like talking to a 5 year old child. I don’t need to educate him let his teachers do that. Guys like don’t know **** about boxing. You will notice one thing I try and refrain from having been in the sport is denigrating fighters even those I dislike out of respect to this great and noble art.

 

The older I get I realize just because like Carl Froch I can Cobra people does not mean I have to.

 

dude its a sport chill.

 

How anybody who loves boxing can denigrate the likes of Ali is beyond me. There are certain principles to stand by. As much as I disliked Sugar Ray Leonard as a man you certainly won’t hear me say anything crass about his magnificent boxing ability, fighting spirit and championship heart. For **** sake he beat and stopped the great Tommy Hearns!

 

I never saw Vitali have a fight as boring as Joshua vs Parker or Ruiz II.

 

Buy the video of Klitchkos fights. Sorry I can’t buy it for you as it’s not something I would wish on my worst enemy.

 

as i said this is no religion. And he didnt even insult him. He just spoke his mind and you go crazy like an ISIS member after someone critiqued Mohammed. The angriest is usually the one that is wrong.

 

70's Ali > 60's Ali.

He had better chin and more power at that weight. But compared to today it wouldnt be enough nevertheless.

He would just be a good cruiser in ny opinion.

 

I'll take that as an admittance you know 0 about Vitali's career and are talking out your biscuit leaking sphincter.

 

It isn't as important as who has the better positioning. If the smaller guy stays at an angle and puts his head in the right position they can get the upper hand on a big guy in the clinch. Also, it helps to have one leg behind the other, so that big man can't leverage all of his weight down. If you want to send a message to the other fighter put your head into his jaw when in the clinch or use a forearm or elbow when you turn, so the ref can't see it. .

Another way is for the smaller fighter to stay at an angle and put most of their weight on one side by grabbing the big man's arm and then you can turn him and escape the clinch. But, the is to stay at an angle and the turn, so you can punch out of the clinch. Joe Louis was very good at this and so was Holyfield until he put on too much muscle and became slow.

Every time Lewis tries to muscle Holyfield it doesn't work because Benton schooled him on how to maintain inside control.
Lewis 6'4" 245 lbs vs. Holyfield 6'1" 215 lbs

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Watch Lewis use the same methods when Akinwande, who was large than him was trying imposing his size in the clinch. It didn't work, since Lewis stand square and would put most of his body towards the side.
Lewis 6'4" 242 lbs Akinwande 6'6" 237 lbs

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Carnera also tried to muscle Loughran, but like Holyfield and Lewis he never stands straight in front of Carnera and is always at an angle, so Carnera can't put his full weight own him.
Carnera 6'5" 270 lbs vs. Loughran 5'10" 186 lbs

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Archie Moore 5'10" 180 lbs vs. Nino Valdez 6'3" 209 lbs
Archie keeps using good head control and angles to keep Valdez from using his size advantage when they work on the inside and Archie used this effectively against guys much bigger than Valdez.

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Marvis Frazier 6'0" 198 lbs vs. James Broad 6'4" 238 lbs
Marvis Frazier despite the size difference uses angles, so Broad can't effectively use his size against him. The few times Marvis stays in front Broad he gets hurt.

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No I just don’t have to listen to his crap as is my democratic right!

 

Enjoy it. To each their own.

 

Cruiserweight limit is 200 pounds which Ali was above.

 

By one pound as late as 1966 (considered Peak year of his career by so called "boxing experts")

The same argument goes for Haye, Usyk, Cunningham, Bellew, etc...

Come again.