Holyfield making Comeback? And If He Faced Tyson Now..?

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  1. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don't need any samples. We both know the testing back then was a joke.
    Anyone who thinks Holyfield never took steroids needs to go get his head examined.
     
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  2. TFP

    TFP Active Member Full Member

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    indeed. it's been said a thousand times before but his 'traps' in the Tyson fights were beyond ridiculous for a 35 yr old, of naturally average build, who had that level of cardio fitness.
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    They would both have strokes mid ring announcements. Jesus has the pandemic really driven posts this far from reality?
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    But how would the fight progress, if say, they faced each other in a years time or so?
    I mean, both guys are gonna be slower than in prime obviously, is there going to be much difference between the two. Fungo practice or an interesting match between two old rivals??
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Book me in with the same people who think Tyson never too steroids.....
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    This might be true but Mike's body didn't undergo any suspicious changes. At his best, he had a normally attainable body that was consistent from fight to fight. He had a similar build since he was a teenager. Later in his career, due to being in prison, he gained muscle due to more weight training. That plus the loss of the baby fat he carried when he was in his prime made him more ripped. Mike's frame remained consistent. Always a bulky guy.

    Holyfield, however, underwent a highly suspicious change. It's not like Mike who had a layer of fat and then shed it and looked more ripped. He was already ripped. He got massive from one fight to the other. That is obvious steroid use. His whole frame changed. Huge shoulders, huge back and traps. His frame changed completely because of muscle gain. That + Evan Fields = steroids.

    So again, it's about the evidence. The evidence on Mike is simply that he was a top athlete and we assume most top athletes are roiding. There was no suspicious change in his appearance.
     
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  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what difference does that make? So if Tyson took steroids but his body didn't change too much that makes it less important?
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I just told you? The evidence. If someone asked you in court, why do you think Mike was on steroids, what's your evidence? Cause I got my answer and evidence for Holyfield that is pretty damning, in pictures and articles. It's still all speculation, you can't prove Mike was on steroids. I can't prove Holyfield was either but I have far more evidence that he was.
     
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  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So your view is Holyfield was on steroids for both fights and Tyson was as clean as whistle?
     
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  10. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsproboxfit Full Member

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    Holyfield ended his career still able to be competitive at elite level. Tyson ended his quitting against Danny Williams and Kevin McBride. Holyfield has spent his retirement in shape in the gym. Tyson has spent his retirement yo yo in’ up and down in weight and getting high....
     
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  11. Neon Maniac

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    Tyson has the style to comeback and is younger ,has less mileage on him to .Holyfield would not look good against tall jabbers ,Mike would end of thread it’s easy to see why Mike is coming back ,Holyfield ?
     
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  12. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Irrelevant.
     
  13. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsproboxfit Full Member

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    Great insight
     
  14. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bruh! You still hadn't learned to wipe your @ss yet when these two guys fought. Da fuq you talking about? Stop reading Boxrec and making conclusions. Tyson was a shell of himself in that fight and Holyfield as much as I loved the guy was roided to the gills and its proven! Ever heard the name Evan Shields?
     
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  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    No version of Tyson ever beats Holyfield. None. Not sure why people can’t accept this. Holyfield had his number. Sometimes that happens in Boxing.