In most sports the current guys are better than previous eras, why would boxing be any different?

of course he would be. The guy would be the biggest most muscular human beeing they ever saw. They would **** their pants only looking at him.

imagine a 7’ foot man with the size of wk and a decent set of boxing skills and a long amateur background stepping into the ring. Not saying he

 

Is often the case but not always. Drop a prime Maradona in the game now and he’s the best player in the world

 

Why would you respond to the post I made with that question?

To answer it, no.

 

This is exactly the kind of nonsense I was on about.

 

I remember the 94 World Cup well.

I remember Ray Houghton’s great goal, as well as Aldridge and McCarthy screaming at the official. Ha!

Yeah, I’ve seen the documentary on Diego.

It was great. Very well put together.

Crazy times.

It’s a shame how it ended at Napoli.

 

What about all of the other eras?

There’s no point in even trying to debate the 20’s era.

It’s better to pick an era that everybody/most people on the thread has knowledge on.

I think boxing has progressed as a whole from it’s roots. But it just doesn’t keep progressing.

We’re now in 2020.

The 80’s and 90’s were 30-40 years ago.

Yet there has been no clear signs of progression within that period.

Boxing just ebbs and flows, and it has done for a long time now.

The fact that there’s many divisions today that aren’t as strong as what they were back then, just destroys any theory that the sport keeps progressing every decade.

 

What it proves is this:

Any fighter can beat any other fighter, despite what era they fought in.

Because a fight will always be determined on how the fighters match up stylistically.

 

Put forward something to debate.

It’s nothing to do with being nostalgic.

Does the sport keep progressing?

Are today’s fighters the best of all time?

Yes or no?

 

Okay.

Then let us compare WHOLE divisions.

Now nobody who possesses any knowledge of the 90’s, would claim that today’s LMW’s, MW’s and SMW’s, are superior. Because they’re clearly not.

Those THREE divisions were clearly stronger back then to what they are now. But how can that be?

If boxing keeps progressing, HOW can THREE divisions have been better 25-30 years ago?

How is it possible?

Only an uneducated fan would even think about comparing today’s MW’s and SMW’s with the guys of the 90’s.

Any knowledgeable fan KNOWS that those 90’s guys were superior. And that just obliterates you’re silly notion.

Boxing has progressed. For sure. But it doesn’t keep progressing. It plateaued a long time ago, and it just ebbs and flows. If you can’t see that, you’re a fool.

 

That's like saying mathematics is not progressing. We figured out how to add 2 + 2 over 75,000 years ago so basically we know everything there is right?

There's always progress. In any discipline, in every sport.

 

You are absolutely clueless.

You can’t see what’s staring you in the face.

Go and compare the MW’s of today to the ones of the 90’s.

Your brain will then tell you that it’s an exception.

Then I’ll find you other divisions.

You’ll then realise that the sport CANNOT keep progressing through time.

 

No. Im 45 yrs old and to make a comparison with rugby,the most devastating rugby player ive ever seen played in the mid 90s. No one today can match.

 

The 90s was also the decade where commissioners, commissions and organizations turned a blind eye to anabolic steroids. Not saying that modern athletes aren't using drugs. But back in the 90s you could just shoot up straight anabolic steroids and EPO and nobody blinked an eye.

Remember? "The ball is juiced, not the players".

 

There isn’t constant progress in boxing.

Yes, there’s been progress. But does it keep progressing?

NO!

Just look at today’s divisions and compare them with some from the past.

One example is MW:

List the best MW’s of today.

You can list the top 10, 15, 20, however many you want.

Go and compare them with the MW’s of the early 90’s, which was over 25 years ago.

Go and do the same with the SMW’s.

That’s 2 WHOLE divisions where the guys of 25 years ago were clearly better than the guys of today.

Now unless you’ve taken copious amounts of LSD, and you think that Callum Smith, Billy Joe Saunders and Canelo etc, were better fighters than the likes of Roy Jones, James Toney and Joe Calzaghe etc, then it just absolutely destroys your ridiculous argument.

I don’t think anybody here is arguing against the progression of the sport from its roots, only that it doesn’t continue to progress with time.

If the sport did continually progress in such a manner, then that would mean that today’s guys are the best fighters of all time.

It would mean that today’s HW’s are the greatest HW’s of all time.

It would mean that today’s MW’s are the greatest MW’s of all time.

It would mean that today’s JMW’s are the greatest JMW’s of all time.

Now who in their right mind is going to claim that?

Nobody.

Boxing ebbs and flows.

A few years ago, the SMW division was very strong. Now it’s weak.

A few years ago, the CW division was weak. Now it’s very strong.

That’s boxing.

It’s been like that now for decades.


You guys need to open your eyes.

 

I would just ignore the elder man.