Tyson angry after getting owned in sparring.

You're the dumb one. Age really doesn't have anything to do with it. Some peak sooner, some latter.
Just as an example, Lewis was clearly a better boxer in his 30's than he was in his 20's.

Correction:
Headbutting roided to the gills CHEAT 2 - 0 Washed up Tyson

 

He said that he used a fake ***** because he took drugs but not specifically HGH so no you're wrong and he smoked weed before the Golota fight. Couldn't find the part with Lewis saying he suspected that Tyson was taking HGH. The Douglas fight was supposed to be a tune-up for the Holyfield fight.

 

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Even Foreman admits that Tyson didn't duck him lol

 

So a boxer can be in his prime at 50 right? The age is irrelevant right?
Kid go back to the general forum

 

Why would he even need to take steroids? He weighed 190 lbs when he was 13 and I doubt that he started to use steroids when he was younger than 12. He would've become bulkier and slowed down if he used steroids and that wouldn't have helped him.

 

I know but I don't think he has shown any signs of steroid use.

 

Tyson ducked Foreman and you are one of them stupid Tyson fan!
Excuses like every time!
Tyson was afraid of Holyfield because Holyfield was not scared and he beat Tyson in sparing 1984 in front of Biggs and Stewart who admitted that Holyfield made Tyson look bad!
Tyson ducked Foreman for sure!

Mike Tyson flatly refused a Foreman fight, telling Don King in the presence of Hall of Famer Bobby Goodman and other witnesses that he would not fight Foreman

Bobby Goodman has said repeatedly on the record, backed by six other people, and never disputed by Mike Tyson, "****in' Tyson is scared **** less of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fight in' that ****in' animal, if you love the mother****er so much, you fight him!'"

Those writers who belittle Frank Lotizero, who chronicled these events in 1990 are slandering a highly respected, award winning journalist with no proof

Frank Lotierzo is an award winning staff writer for NY Fights. Over the years, his work has appeared in ESPN, The Sweet Science, Boxing Illustrated, Fight Game, Ring, Cox’s Corner, and Boxing Scene. He also works on ESPN radio. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, he was an amateur boxer based out of Philadelphia and trained by George Benton. He is a member of the International Boxing Research Organization and a member of the Boxing Writers Association of America.

Lotierzo in his nearly 40 year career, has never been accused of any wrongdoing in any story. Never. Anyone calling him a hack, or accusing him of fabricating a story is simply slandering an award winning journalist with no proof except fanboy resentment that he reports facts as they are.

Award winning journalist Frank Lotizero broke this story 30 years ago, it has been reprinted six times, never denied by Mike

Frank Lotierzo, on the record for Cox's Corner, said it best 30 years ago: "I haven't a morsel of a doubt that Tyson just doesn't match up with Foreman, and he knows it. Tyson of 1990 was afraid of an old Foreman."

According to highly respected boxing writer and historian Frank Lotierzo, he went to out to eat with Georgie Benton, Lou Duva and Bobby Goodman on June 1, 1990. (all were in Atlantic City for the Holyfield - McDonagh fight) At the time, Goodman was Don King's matchmaker. Lotierzo had known Benton for many years, and through him Duva. He had been introduced to Goodman a couple weeks before Tyson fought Larry Holmes at the Convention Center in Atlantic City in January 1988.

While the group was eating that day in 1990, according to Lotierzo, who has written and spoken about this extensively, and Goodman, who has spoken about it on the record, Benton said, "Bobby, what's up with Foreman and Tyson, how come they're not fighting each other on the 16th? Isn't that the fight that King was trying to make?"

Goodman then said, "Georgie, You'll never believe this but, ****in' Tyson is scared **** less of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fight in' that ****in' animal, if you love the mother****er so much, you fight him!'"

Lotierzo also wrote and has said that all through the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and himself shared stories on the fight game. In addition to what he had already said about Tyson and Foreman, Goodman added later, "oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He went on to say that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown.

Goodman also told the group that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier." Cus, of course, never dreamed that Foreman could be a possible Tyson opponent so many years later. According to Goodman, Cus said the only fighters who had a chance against Foreman were, tall rangy fighters who could fight him from a distance while moving away from him, and no way any swarmer could beat Foreman by going to him.

Lotierzo has written on the record that he subsequently talked to people who were involved with promoting Foreman, including Ron Weathers who promoted some of Foreman's fights after his coming out of retirement. Weathers told Lotierzo the same story. The fight didn't happen because of Tyson's fear of losing to Big George. Bob Arum also said that he dreamed of making Foreman -Tyson. He said it would be huge money and that Foreman would stop Tyson easier than he did Frazier. Lotierzo also wrote he has heard the same story, of Tyson fearing Foreman from George's brother Roy who was his business manager.

The story was confirmed on the record by six people, and reprinted 6 times in 30 years without anyone, including Mike, disputing a syllable

Lotierzo confirmed the facts of this story with those present that day, Goodman, Benton, and Lou Duva, Roy Weathers, Roy Foreman, Don King, and Bob Arum

Not one person, including Mike Tyson, have disputed one fact in 30 years, while the story has been reprinted six times, and featured on ESPN.

For people who claim this is only "hearsay," a journalist's sources, undisputed by 4 people who were there, including Mike Tyson, for 28 years, that claim is absurd. They simply do not want to believe Tyson didn’t want the fight. (Mike himself doesn't deny it!)

The original story, well sourced, and undisputed, is reprinted on the Sweet Science, online here:

Why We Never Saw Foreman-Tyson

George also discusses Mike not wanting to fight him here:

Foreman: We Had Serious Talks, Mike Tyson Didn't Want To Fight

Frank Lotierzo, on the record for Cox's Corner, said it best 30 years ago: "I haven't a morsel of a doubt that Tyson just doesn't match up with Foreman, and he knows it. If Tyson of 1990 was afraid of an old Foreman, think how petrified he would of been of a prime Foreman, the one who stared down both Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali in 1973 and 1974."

The claims George said he was afraid of Tyson don’t mention that those statements were made 30 years later, with George in his lovable Grandpa mode

George has made various statements through the years, and the claims he said he was afraid of Tyson, blah, blah, blah, are based solely off a recent interview (available - of course - on you-tube) in which George did his usual self effacing Grandpa schick, which he perfected to sell products he advertises.

George also said recently he hid under his bed watching Deontay Wilder fight.

Anyone who believes either should immediately be forced to go buy 14 Foreman grills.

A better grasp on what Foreman really thinks is what he said close to the events in question, in his autobiography By George, where he said “I never feared any man on earth. If I said I did, its because you are supposed to say those things.”

Foreman made extremely clear at the time, as he said, “Mike would have had to come to me, just like Joe Frazier, and that would be that.”

Just like Cus told Mike back in the late 70’s…

Only in a never was reality would Tyson have taken a Foreman fight!

Mike Tyson, a student of the fight game, watched films of Foreman, and was convinced he was just too strong, and would have overwhelmed the much smaller man. Now given that Foreman was 45 after Moorer, and much slower than in 1990, Mike might have been able to avoid his blows and survive - but I still doubt it.

Mike has a 71 inch reach, 8 1/2 inches shorter than Foreman’s. He would have to come to him, as Cus warned him not to do, and would have been hit on the way in.

Goodnight Mike…

 

Foreman is humble just like he said he was scared of Frazier but what happened to Frazier*
Tyson ducked him and Foreman called him out several times!
Foreman just wants to make you stupid Tysonites that he did not duck anybody to not break your stupid hearts!
Tyson ducked Foreman 100 percent even in front of people!

 

Excuses...by every stupid Tyson fan!Yeah right he hide weed for sure even knowing weed could not affect you and was scared to show his own ****!
He took PEDs and came out jacked fro prison!He did not smoked weed that was his excuse for using steroids even he admitted he used HGH!
Yes you could even there is a single video of Lewis talking about who he suspected using steroids!
Not really Douglas fight was easier fight and he could use it as excuse why he ducked Holyfield!Holyfield was rated 1st and Tyson faked rib injury because he did not want to face Holyfield and faced Douglas like he faced Ruddock instead of Foreman to have atleast one average puncher on his streak but even then he struggled with glass jawed Ruddcok!

 

Below is what Tyson’s promoters had to say about it.

"Neither Duva nor Finkel was available for comment yesterday. Foreman, however, drew little sympathy from King or his advisers.

"George tried to be a 'cutie-pie' and got outfoxed," said King's matchmaker, Al Braverman.

"We had offered him $20 million to fight Tyson and he turned it down. That was his biggest boo-boo. Plus he was guaranteed $10 million for two other fights on HBO this year. Actually, I think George was afraid of getting his butt kicked by Tyson."

BELOW is what Foreman’s promoters had to say about it.

Arum said the $100 million suit was based on "treble damages."

He said: "We passed up a $20 million offer for George to fight Tyson. We would have shared in the site fee and pay-per-view promotion. We also have to figure on lost revenue if George had whipped Holyfield. But, to be honest, we'd settle for $50 million."

As Weathers told the New York Post this week: "George wants to fight, not sue people. We laughed, then cried when we found out about Holyfield-Tyson. You've got to protect yourself more outside the ring than in it. It's a tough business, and George is just protecting himself