Wilders career is effectively over?

Nah, HW's peak at an older age than almost everyone in the division. There's nothing to suggest that he's lost speed or power (which is all he had in the first place). It took the most elite of all HW's to stay away from his power and dominate him. Wilder still beats a lot of guys, and can make a lot of money. The fight with Joshua is still there, after Fury beats Joshua. Fights with Povetkin, Hunter, Usyk, Ruiz and even some of the up and coming guys are still there because Wilder is still a name. He has a lot of options.

 

Glass cannon's careers are never over since people pay to see brutal knockouts.
He might be fine at top level, but he can fight as long as he wants.

 

Difference is Wilder is no Louis or Lewis is he so poor are his fundamentals. I cannot see him learning at age 35 especially now he is past his athletic best.

 

Physically I don't think so. He's old in boxing terms but he's still relatively fresh. Only really been in one really punishing fight and taken a handful of knocks over the years, always kept himself in good shape, seems to have good genes.

Mentally though I think he's ruined. He built his whole career around being this unbeatable unstoppable force, and he's shown he's not really been able to process this loss in any way. Stylistically he's never been able to pick up new skills that easily and is more or less set in stone at this point, which means anyone who tries to emulate Fury's gameplan has a good chance of success. That'll be easier said than done of course, since Wilder showed in the first Ortiz fight that he was still able to punch well going backwards (second knockdown).

 

He didn't get 36 minutes to land his right in his last fight, did he?

When will this corny line die out?

 

Ruiz would eat him (at least so long as he's in shape, which under Reynoso now I think he will be). If a rebuild is the objective then someone like Charles Martin would be a better choice. In reality though there are very few safe options because Wilder is just that limited. He'll be vulnerable against practically all of the top 20-25.

 

Louis was 22 when he lost to Schmeling. At 35 Louis was two years shy of getting beaten by Marciano and was already a spent force.

Lennox was 29 when he lost to McCall.

 

He needs to grow some stones and fight the likes of Whyte and Joshua. Those fights are still huge even with 1 defeat to his name.

BUT if he fights Fury and gets smashed again then I just don't see the point in it. He's better forgetting about the belt now and getting his retirement pay check fights in.

 

The thing about Wilder is this.... despite his plethora of flaws, he had two things going for him: Incredible right hand power; and confidence. The latter might not sound too important, but it is. Wilder believed he couldn't be beaten, and that confidence was enough to pull many fights out of the fire for him.

Boxing history has shown that once an undefeated, brash puncher takes an ass whupping, their confidence is almost NEVER the same again. Wilder's self aura of invincibility is shattered, and now he'll forever doubt himself in the ring more than he did pre-Fury II.

I dunno if his career is over. Even if Fury whups his ass again, Wilder can still make some money and beat a few guys based on his power alone.

But I think he'll ever be the same again? No, I doubt it.

I think his best days are over.

 

Wilder has a new career, Tyson Fury's dosser. He accepted that job role back in 2018.

Good pay

Lots of time off

Free publicity

The best healthcare

 

I still think that Wilder is capable of bodying the more defensively open and timid heavyweights.

However now other fighters have seen how to beat him; push him on the back foot. He is going to lose fights he wouldnt have lost before the Fury loss.

A man like Wilder isnt going to take losing his 0 very well. Also, as he gets to 37-38 he is going to experience a marked physical decline.

 

No, it's not. He can still beat a lot of contenders. And I wouldn't count him out for another title. I don't give that a lot of chance but his punch keeps him in it.

 

this is pretty much how I see it playing out, maybe he takes one more fight after he loses to Fury again, maybe Whyte, Ruiz or someone like that but I think that’s probably it for him if he loses there too.

 

He's got one loss to the best heavyweight in the world, possibly of the last 2 decades. Replicating what fury did is literally impossible for any of the current top 10