Floyd's resume.

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Floyd could use the excuse because he won and 1,000 years from now the records will show he won in the same way 1,000 years from now the records will still show Pacquiao lost.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you’re saying that after beating a guy, you feel him telling people the reason it looked tough was because he had a shoulder injury, is classy. I would at least like to see some evidence of some type of treatment for this injury before I decide just how classy the whole thing was.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I believe there was evidence provided post fight after the victory but the best evidence is the more emphatic victory in the immediate rematch similar to the way Azumah Nelson the Professor and the Terrible Terror from Accra, Ghana dealt with the Tasmania Devil the Thunder from Down Under Jeff Fenech in the rematch. If you are not aware in the first match Nelson suffering from Malaria refused to cancel the contest and went on with it despite his ailment. Offered him the immediate as he told Dr Fergie Pacheco to prove who was pound for pound the better fighter. As Azumah said post fight after the rematch it was like father and son. If your son steps out of line you as the father have to check him. Mayweather proved beyond a shadow of doubt he was much better than Castillo in the rematch as he was affected and handicapped in the first fight.
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you’ve seen this evidence?
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    It was well documented at the time Bandeedo. See below:

    On This Day: Jose Luis Castillo creates blueprint on how to beat Floyd Mayweather


    April 21, 2016

    BN Staff




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    TO this day, the critics of Floyd Mayweather Jnr point to his first fight with Mexico’s Jose Luis Castillo when they wish to prove that Mayweather is neither invincible nor, as he himself claims to be, “T. B.E,” The Best Ever.



    Back On This Day in 2002, Mayweather, in the eyes of his fiercest critics, actually lost a fight. Even those who feel Mayweather deserved the unanimous decision that went his way after 12 rough and tough rounds agree how “Money,” or “Pretty Boy,” as Floyd was known at the time, looked anything but great.



    Going up against Castillo, at The MGM Grand in his home of Las Vegas, 25-year-old Mayweather challenged the 28-year-old known as “El Terrible” for the Mexican’s WBC lightweight crown. What happened in the ring that night has certainly become the subject of great debate; becoming even more so as the years have passed and Mayweather’s greatness has grown. Was Castillo robbed that night, or, at the very least, is the Mexican the only man to have come close to putting down a blueprint (something Floyd claims does not exist) on how to defeat the exceptionally gifted multi-weight king?



    Mayweather won the early rounds that night, but Castillo, an underrated boxer who was also uncommonly tough, came on after a slow start and began putting rounds in the bank. How did Castillo achieve the mid-rounds success he enjoyed – by forgetting about Mayweather’s head and instead targeting, with efficiency, his midsection. Castillo, cutting off the ring, boxed a patient fight, he did not get flustered by Floyd’s superb defensive moves and head movement, and he also used his physical strength by leaning on Mayweather, looking to both slow him down and tire him out. These tactics proved effective, enough for many respected judges to feel that Mayweather should not be sporting the perfect record he is today.



    Officially, Mayweather improved to 29-0 and captured his second world title by margins of 116-111 and 115-111 twice. But Castillo, who fell to 45-5-1, was convinced he’d done enough to have won. Those who agreed/agree with him include Harold Lederman of HBO, who had it a wide 115-111 for Castillo. Dan Rafael of ESPN had it all even at 114-114.



    After the far tougher than expected rumble, Mayweather underwent surgery on his left shoulder. Floyd had partially blamed his damaged rotator cuff for the tough win and craved a rematch. The two met again in December of 2002, with Mayweather winning in a more convincing manner this time; in a showing even his critics were forced to applaud. Interestingly, however, the judges’ scores were far closer in the rematch, with Floyd prevailing by just two points on two cards.



    The Castillo fights took place a long, long time ago, and it’s almost certainly testament to Mayweather’s brilliance that his critics continue to clutch at straws in pointing a finger towards the first meeting as “proof” that he is not the sublime talent everyone else agrees he is.



    http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-...es-blueprint-on-how-to-beat-floyd-mayweather/
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Sent you my response.
     
  7. SpeedKills

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    Mayorga was the #2 JMW? Plz confirm that.
    Morales in a five year period had 7 losses and 1 win? Not sure that’s true, but you can tell me how that went for Mosley, De La Hoya, Ortiz, Guerrero etc after Mayweather.
    And right. Barrera was just coming off a surgery he had 7 years prior. Ok.

    Fanboyism has people petty, to lie even.
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    I remember pbf telling his corner during that fight with jlc that his shoulder was hurting. Pac never mentioned his shoulder once to his corner during that fight. Btw pbf never lost to jlc it was a close fight so it was no excuse and after that he beat him again for good measure.
     
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  9. The Real Lance

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    Mayorga was never the #2 JrMW. Don't know how he came to that conclusion...
     
  10. bandeedo

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    Resolves none of my doubts.
     
  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Like Pimp C said it was not an excuse because Floyd won. His surgery was reported in the press as per the article I sent you and even the commentary during the fight picks up Floyd complaining about the pain in his shoulder. However you want to doubt it. If that makes you feel better knock yourself out on your doubts.
     
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  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd was getting manhandled, crying about lumps during a fight is different to coming into a fight lumped up. And, you sent nothing, but unless it’s proof similar to what was produced by the pac team, save yourself the actual sending.
     
  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    The Money Team don’t peddle excuses only losing teams do that.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That's fine but what i said is indeed fact.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great argument, I think that’s why Floyd brought up the shoulder injury, which healed itself, when the decision was booed.