Sonny Liston vs Ingemar Johannson 1959

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw38gN5XFi-TzL0hgPSYANMg&cshid=1589479666438 here is an obit. It says he crawled 7 feet before his demise. I can't shake the nagging feeling that he was pushed.

 

Could be.

 

Sonny Liston, Zora Foley and Eddie Machen all died around the same sort of time.

Coincidentally each of them were run during the heyday of the “managers Guild”.

 

ya, Liston in '70, and the others in '72, all very mysterious. Oscar Bonavena was shot in '76. All very shady guys.

 

Hàaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.

Liston ko

 

I went down the Oscar Bonevena rabbit hole recently not only worthy of a thread or 8 but also a book and a movie! Talk about chaos!

I’m wondering how much of his success was based on natural attributes as opposed to dedication?

 

I think this thread stopped being about Liston vs. Johansson two days ago

 

I just realized how far it has strayed!

 

Yup it turned into a "Cleveland Williams was a bum and a featherfist and anyone who says otherwise need to find another sport.", now it's an investigation into boxing deaths. Gotta love ESB

 

it's a strayed thread about an absurd and overstated argument. The 60s division is pretty interesting if you want to entertain conspiracy theories.

 

Grassy Knoll?

 

oops! This is the classic boxing forum. You can't talk about that. lol