Wilders career is effectively over?

I hear that, but that promotion is part of what made the Wilder-Fury fights so much more interesting. Yeah he's mostly (not exclusively) been fighting trash but he's been putting people to sleep with one punch, that sort of thing is an awful lot rarer in the sport than we appreciate. If people want to take the wanting a body on his record thing seriously, that's on them. He's flawed but dangerous, he says ******ed stuff and he's fun to watch - it's the complete package as far as I'm concerned.

 

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Had he said it once I'd be a lot more forgiving of that comment but, he decided to say it repeatedly and whether or not he genuinely believes it or not it's a tasteless thing to say even just as a marketing gimmick. People lose their lives for our entertainment and deserve more respect than Wilder gives them when he says things like that.

Boxing has too many mismatches as it is and Wilder is the embodiment of that. I don't find him knocking over less than stellar opposition that entertaining even if other top tier fighters wouldn't be able to win those in such highlight highlight reel fashion. Then there's been his attempts to make the Fury fight and the promotion of Joshua race issues, punching hookers and the like and it makes him out to be a complete dickhead.

 

It's tasteless for sure but this is a tasteless sport. I've such a low bar set for behavior in this sport; were it any higher then I'd probably have to watch something else.

See now most of the stuff I read is about how much of a fraud Wilder is and that everyone in the top 10 can beat him. So if that's the case then these other fights aren't mismatches because that's his level. I know that isn't you saying that, it's more of a general point about the hyperbole surrounding much of the Wilder discussion. I don't remember seeing race issue stuff in regards to Joshua though, I must have missed that

 

He was talking about Joshua's relationship with Hearn. He and his fans then went after Ishe Smith for saying he thought Wilder was talking nonsense.

 

Oh that sounds a little familiar actually. I don't think he's clever enough to make comments like that (not that they're particularly clever) himself, I think it's stuff he's told to say for PR. Same with Haney and the white boy comments. After that the interest in seeing Loma against him instead of Lopez grew exponentially. They're shitty comments, no doubt but I have to go by what I think the intention is.

 

How has Wilder got plenty of options of fighting the top ranked Heavyweights when he has pretty much flat out refused to fight them his entire career?
He refused a $120,000,000 deal to fight AJ, ran from Povetkin as soon as the opportunity presented itself and don't give me that crap about him fighting a drug cheat as he's fought ole man Ortiz'nt twice, has left Whyte hanging for something like a 1000 days and has only ever fought 2 genuine top 10 opponents.

Wilder is the Undisputed King of Cherry Picks and Excuses and should he fight Fury again, he loses and should he continue you'll be lucky to see him fighting the best the PBC has to offer and that's Kownacki and Ruiz and I can assure you now, he ain't going anywhere near Ruiz.

 

Are you actually a boxing fan? Full fight highlights (weights highlighted during the ring announcement) have been on YouTube for 2 months plus and in the Heavyweight division, weight in weights tend not to fluctuate come fight night.

 

I want to see him fight a top ranked contender who's not OLD and can punch. Then we'll see where he stands. I've already seen Fury beat him twice, badly in the last outing.

 

The body on the record stuff is asinine, but I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't feel so contrived. Tyson was a mean sonofa***** that wasn't an act. Whereas Wilder feels planned and fake and false as well as tasteless.

 

Yeah, agreed, it's just posturing trying to sell a fight. And it seems to have worked later down the line

 

I believe by the tone written you have me confused as a Wilder fan, which I'm most assuredly not. But to say objectively that he has "no options" is foolish and quite to the contrary. Aside from the reasons I already stated:

1. He's not a champion anymore, he doesn't have the ability to pick and choose like he did.
2. Joshua has still expressed interest in fighting Wilder, that alone is still the biggest option in the division. Wilder has less bargaining power than he even previously had when it comes to this.
3. Wilder will fight whoever Haymon "advises" him to fight, Ruiz, Kownacki etc...wouldn't be difficult to make for example and a potential Ruiz fight was being bandied about before Ruiz blobbed his way through the Joshua rematch.
4. He is still one of the "biggest" names in the division, that people want, especially now that Fury has humbled him twice, they seem as easily beatable.

So yes, he still has quite a few options. Also, let's stop bringing up Povetkin, he was literally in Europe when that fight fell apart and it's not relevant to this.

 

Wilder will knock Fury out cold in five rounds, and both of them will begin to be recognized as quite possibly ATGs.

The Wilder-Fury thing is an Epic. Joshua is only going to end up being a successful title defense for the winner of Wilder-Fury. People are drawn to W/F partly because those two truly are the best heavies in the world, AJ was exposed by Andy and he will get stopped again.

People will be interested in Wilder-Fury to the exclusion of all other heavies when Wilder knocks Tyson out.

Again, I've no desire to argue. Wilder has changed, has become obsessed. Trust me on this. He only cares about wiping the floor with Fury. He will.

 

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