the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen this fight but never scored it until now. Fighting Harada v Lionel Rose. 5 point must system in effect.

    Round 1: 5-4 Rose
    Round 2: 5-4 Rose
    Round 3: 5-4 Harada
    Round 4: 5-4 Harada
    Round 5: 5-4 Rose
    Round 6: 5-3 Harada (I felt Harada had won the round plus the referee penalized Rose a point for what appeared to be hitting with an open glove)
    Round 7: 5-5 Even
    Round 8: 5-4 Rose
    Round 9: 5-3 Rose (scores a knockdown)
    Round 10: 5-4 Rose
    Round 11: 5-4 Rose
    Round 12: 5-4 Rose
    Round 13: 5-5 Even
    Round 14: 5-4 Rose
    Round 15: 5-4 Rose

    Total: 71-64 Rose (official scores by 3 Japanese officials: 72-71, 72-70 and 72-69 all for Rose)

    So we had the swarmer (Harada), who was slathering Rose with anything he could muster and whether it landed or not that was his game. However, this fight should be a template in catching that aggressor coming in. Wow! Rose was conservative with his punches for most of the fight but was so precise and pin-point that it was unbelievable for a fighter so young. Just a wonderful performance and an excellent gameplan. Kudos to Rose and his corner for devising and enacting an outstanding strategy against an all-time great bantamweight.
     
  2. Jel

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    Larry Holmes v Mike Weaver

    Cracking heavyweight fight between a game challenger in Weaver who surprised Holmes with his punch and durability in this one.

    Holmes started well but went off the boil on a couple of occasions before a stunning 11th battle turned things finally in his favour.

    1 10-9
    2 10-9 (nice competitive round)
    3 10-9 (close)
    4 9-10 (terrific round)
    5 9-10
    6 9-10
    7 10-9
    8 10-9 (close)
    9 10-9 (good round, Holmes edged it)
    10 9-10 (Weaver wobbles Holmes at the end of the round to take it)
    11 10-8 (great round!)
    (106-102)
    12 Holmes TKO Weaver
     
  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had this fight exactly the same, 106-102 with the same rounds.
     
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  4. Jel

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    That 11th round - that was Holmes-Norton round 15 level action!
     
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    Salvador Sanchez v Danny Lopez 2

    Not quite as awesome a performance from Sanchez in the rematch as his title-winning effort - more measured perhaps but lacking the devastating flurries of the first fight that left Lopez's face a mess. I can see why the judges had this fight closer but while Lopez was always there and was competing with Sanchez better than in the first fight, I still found it hard to give him rounds.

    1 10-9
    2 9-10 (close, Lopez landed some nice shots towards the end of the round)
    3 9-10
    4 10-9
    5 10-9
    6 10-9
    7 10-9
    8 10-9
    9 10-9
    10 10-9
    11 10-9 (better from Lopez but still couldn't give him the round)
    12 10-10 (Lopez takes a share of this round)
    13 10-9
    (128-120)
    14 Sanchez TKO Lopez
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Been a minute since I posted in here. Wait, has it? I don't know. It's been more than a couple days... so that's like 20 fights I've not scored. :lol:

    Anyway, after handing Mendoza his arse the other day, I figured why not watch this:

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    9 : 10
    10 : 9
    9 : 10
    9 : 10
    10 : 7
    10 : 9 (57-55)
    10 : 9
    9 : 10
    9 : 10
    9 : 10
    10 : 8* (
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    *could be a 10-9, Kittikasem did a decent job if pulling this one back from an admittedly awesome KD.

    Chang was clearly declined here, but still athletic as hell. He was only 28. However, his timing was off, he wasn't as accurate, sharp or fast. Kittikasem was an agreeable boxer-puncher with a dynamite punch. Happy to stand with Chang; he was often coming off worse in the vicious exchanges. He did, however, comeback and rally for a late KO. Round 10 was ****ing Godly. The referee was bias to Chang, and yet the scorecards were so bias against him. Weird. The combo to the first KD in the 12th was brutal.

    God, Chang was sooooooo good. I need to do something big on him. I love his style, and even if I prefer Yuh, it's hard to dislike a teeny tiny badass like The Korean Hawk.

    @DrederickTatum you NEED to get to this one. Oh and if you haven't seen it, watch Yuh vs DeMarco, it's one of the best action fights ever imo. :deal:
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    9 : 10
    10 : 9
    9 : 10
    10 : 9 (38/38)
    9 : 10
    10 : 9
    9 : 10
    9 : 10 (75-77)
    10 : 9
    9 : 10
    9 : 10
    9 : 10 (112-116)
    10 : 9

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    Gómez, the quintessential boxer-puncher, had lost the pep in his step and was in search-and-destroy, tear up mode. Pintor, an elite swarmer, was game as **** and all over Gómez. With both men hitting hard, hittable and having elite skills in all areas, it was a delight to watch them scrap. Gomez's combos were devastating, had Pintor reeling at times and it was a pitch perfect KO. Pintor was awesome fighting off the ropes and had a very underrated defence.

    So yeah, much better fight than I remember, lots of mini-momentum shifts. Two awesome ATG rounds (3rd/12th) and high skills, high workrate throughout. Not one of the greatest fights I've ever seen, but a high-level affair between two guys who it's hard to dislike.
     
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  8. Jel

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    See! Told you it was good.

    Joking aside, you've actually reminded me that when I first saw the fight I was a little underwhelmed. It wasn't helped by the fact I had Saad-Lopez 2 and Chacon-Limon 4 on the same tape! But once I watched it a couple of times more, isolated from those two unbelievable fights, I started to appreciate it a lot more and it became one of my favourites. Agree about rounds 3 and 12 but iirc round 9 was also really good.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    It was good. Probably top 40....

    I do think it's overrated, but an excellent fight from an excellent era.
     
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  10. Jel

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    Yeah, it's relative to its era - not as good as Pryor-Arguello 1 or Chacon-Limon 4 or even Saad-Lopez 2 but there aren't many better than those throughout history.
     
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    Greg Richardson v Joichiro Tatsuyoshi

    Rough, I finally got a chance to have a gander at this today. Joichiro looked very good. Here is how I had it.

    Round 1: 10-9 JT
    Round 2: 10-9 JT
    Round 3: 10-9 Richardson
    Round 4: 10-9 JT
    Round 5: 10-9 JT
    Round 6: 10-10 Even
    Round 7: 10-9 Richardson
    Round 8: 10-8 JT (gave this a 10-8 because I felt JT battered Richardson well)
    Round 9: 10-9 JT
    Round 10: 10-9 JT
    Round 11: Richardson is retired in his corner

    Total (through 10 completed rounds): 98-92 Tatsuyoshi (actual scores: 97-92, 98-91 and 97-93 all for JT)

    Taking nothing from Tatsuyoshi, but if Richardson fought Gaby Canizales this way rather than how he duked it out with him 2 years earlier, Gaby would have gone through him for a short cut. Actually, it does sound like I'm taking some luster from Tatsuyoshi's win, but I don't wish to be demeaning here. Tatsuyoshi fought a brilliant fight, battered Greg's body and left nothing to the judges. I came close to giving JT a 2 pointer in the 10th, but a lot of his battering was done after the bell rang where that inept Tony Perez allowed a real unnecessary beating to take place. All in all, a tremendous win for Joichiro Tatsuyoshi.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    Real hidden gem here, I think Jel'd like this one here.

    Seabrooks/Jacob
    9 : 10*
    9 : 10
    9 : 10
    10 : 9 (37-49)
    9 : 10
    8 : 10
    9 : 10
    10 : 10
    10 : 9 (
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    *3 KDs, 2 to Jacob.

    Awesome fight, massive heart on show from Kel, who's basically the Saad Muhammad of the BW division. Actually, this was like a 118 version of Saad/Johnson 2. Rounds 1 and 8 were mad, well every round was, but those especially.

    Edit: made the colour right.
     
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  13. Jel

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    Thanks for the recommendation my friend - I'm currently watching Simon Brown v Tyrone Trice but have added this one to the watch list.
     
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    I liked that one too.
     
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    Simon Brown v Tyrone Trice 1

    Tough battle. Brown showed that slow and steady wins the race. Trice started fast and got cocky with Brown but then seemed to run out of steam while Brown came on in the second half and was by far the more durable, taking everything Trice threw at him and hurting him back.

    I was surprised it went past the 12th because Trice was done. Brown thought he'd won but Smoger allowed it to continue but it was only a matter of time after that.

    1 9-10
    2 8-10
    3 9-10
    4 9-10
    5 9-10
    6 10-9
    7 10-9
    8 10-9 (good back and forth action)
    9 9-10
    10 10-9
    11 10-9
    12 10-6 (Brown puts Trice down hard and Trice is unbelievably lucky to survive, making it up each time after three knockdowns. Steve Smoger was pretty damn generous not to stop the fight)
    13 10-9
    (123-120)
    14 Brown TKO Trice