Would Ken Norton be a champ today?

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    Elaborated before
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Baer didn`t have the skills Fury has and would have been knocked out AJ and Wilder.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Moore used it better, it doesn`t work against power punchers, Norton couldn`t fight on the backfoot.
     
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  4. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    Today none uses that technique anymore and none teaches it in the gyms...therefore for me is outdated...dont see an its return in the future neither an its evolution.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For heavens sake, the Pillsbury doughboy was champ. Norton would be too
     
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  6. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Could’ve definitely picked up a Strap in this Era, hell Charles Martin did. I don’t fancy his chances against the big 3. Fury, AJ and Wilder. But a possibly now even more gun shy AJ (like the one in the Ruiz rematch) I’d give Norton a shot. Pre Klitschko AJ does a demo job on him.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Norton would lose to Joshua in all likelihood

    I do not believe Norton loses to Wilder. I know people will mention the Foreman fight but Wilder is no Foreman. Wilder does not have as good a jab as Foreman, nor as good a left hook, left uppercut etc. Plus Wilder isn't as intimidating, isn't as good at cutting off the ring as Big George, doesn't have as good a chin etc. Wilder is too crude IMO to catch Norton.

    An older Norton losing to Shavers does not mean he couldn't handle punchers. It just means he was past it.

    Here is how i see it:

    Norton vs Fury- 60-40 in favor of Fury- Norton has a chance to decision the big man but i think Fury's size and skill wins him a decision

    Norton vs Joshua- 70-30 in favor of Joshua.

    Norton vs Wilder- 60-40 in favor of Norton
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I would favor each of the big 3 over him. He would slot in the with the next group, winning some, losing some, perhaps catching lightening in a bottle a la Ruiz.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you believe that someone like Archie Moore would not be effective today?
     
  10. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Norton would not survive to a right hand from wilder.
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Norton couldn`t have taken te uppercut Ruiz took when he was flooreed in their first clash and he didn`t have the chin to push AJ back and have him running around the ring like AJ did in his rematch v Ruiz.
     
  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    IMO he might not even get hit by it.

    I agree that he doesn't survive if he gets hit clean. But Wilder isn't Foreman at cutting off the ring. He doesn't have Foreman's left. Foreman would often set up his right with a strong left jab. Foreman would sometimes throw wide hooks and then throw in a short right hand/right uppercut to catch his opponent off guard.

    Wilder does not have that kind of skill. Plus Norton was a good puncher. If Norton can avoid Wilders right for a few rounds and land a good left hook on him, my guess is that Wilder would be in all sorts of trouble.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Norton would beat old Pulev and at least be competitive with Hunter, old Povetkin, and Parker. He'd get rolled over by the big 3 and Ruiz or Ortiz if they showed up anywhere near top form.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    I wouldn’t favor him to unless he came around a few years ago and picked up a strap from someone like Lucas Browne. But I can’t see him beating Fury, Joshua or Wilder