Primo Carnera vs Ron Lyle.

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Who wins?

  1. Lyle decision

  2. Lyle stoppage

  3. Primo decision

  4. Primo stoppage

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Primo fought in a much deeper era than folks realise. Carnera beat a lot of contenders like Lasky, Schaff, uzcudun, Neusel, laughran, santas, campolo, levinsky and Godfrey. He also beat poreda but the referee was banned for judging against Primo.

    People make assumptions without knowing enough about those fights.

    It was only really max Baer and Joe Louis who outclassed Primo with their punching power and I back both to knockout Lyle too seeing as Ali and Foreman did the same to him as wellas others later in both men's careers.

    Primo was a hard to beat superheavyweight. It would not surprise me if he beat Ron Lyle.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    This was addressed by me 3 years ago!

    "The underlined is illogical nonsense .
    If a poster has faith and trust in the abilities of say Lewis and Wlad ,it doesn't follow that he will have the same faith and trust in those of Carnera I certainly haven't! And judging by the votes Bowe received neither does the vast majority of this forum!
    Lasky was not a contender when Carnera beat him he had only had 15 fights against nobodies.
    Uzcudun was not a contender ,he hadn't been ranked for 5 years!
    Campolo was not a contender in either of their fights when he faced Carnera.
    Santa was never a contender.
    Mentioning Schaaf who was a dead man walking is in singularly bad taste.
    Yes, Bugner and Quarry both beat Carnera
    Please stop with this ridiculous charade!"
     
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  3. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just want to say I'm delighted to see you back, auld friend.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Cheers C,kind of you, though I doubt my stay will be for long.lol
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Leroy Haynes stopped him twice too. Lets not forget Primo certainly wasn't immune to getting beat by decision either.
     
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  6. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same but I think Primo makes the bell.
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Once again, McVey is wrong about everything.
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If they fought three times I’d say primo takes two.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bugner fought well v Ali and had a chin, he also beat Cooper.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Lyle was a far faster counter puncher than Primo and his counters were hard as hell, he punched to hard for Carnera, 1st round KO.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yeah I know, I just think Lyle also struggles against all the guys who beat Primo.

    when you look at the best guys Lyle beat, I don’t see how they are better or as numerous as the best guys Primo beat.