Andy Ruiz v any of Ali`s opponents how would he have fared then?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Ruiz could have fought any of Ali`s opponents when Ali fought them which ones could he have beat?
     
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    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I thought that Karl Mildenberger gave Muhammad Ali one of his toughest title defenses in his first title reign on Sept 10 1966,. I watched it live on ABC's Wide World Of Sports that afternoon and Howard Cossel was being very critical of Ali's performance.
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fatass could lose to them all Mark the Snark. Nobody likes a fighter with dd tits unless yr Laila Ali.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I was speaking about Ali reffering to his nickname, he was getting caught constantly by Karl that night.
     
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    You mean Mildy. He sure was getting caught in that fight, especially that Liver shot.
     
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    Griffin got Jones on the ropes so definitely him
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    That`s a fair comparison actually except Ali threw more combo`s at Karl than Roy did v Griffin.
     
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    Sonny Liston from the rematch!
    That liston would probably have given up after 5 rounds of mauling by Ruiz.
     
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    He would have lost to everyone. Jerry Quarry would have ripped holes in his fat gut
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Even Ali`s first 10 opponents?! WTF? Those guys were thin as hell Ruiz would have destroyed them, an old Archie Moore?
     
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    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Sonny Liston
    Larry Holmes
     
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    I am sure Ruiz would beat Moore, Foster, old Cleveland Williams, Wepner, Cooper, etc.

    I think Ruiz gets outboxed by Quarry, worn down and stopped by Frazier's body attacks, outslugged by Foreman and Liston.

    Ruiz-Shavers would be interesting. Shavers has the power but does he have the chin? I think Ruiz beats him.

    Lyle-Ruiz, I would favor Lyle.

    Ruiz-Norton, if Norton fights smartly, he could decision him, but if he gets caught, its lights out for Ken.
     
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    Hey I said that Ruiz would beat Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, George Foreman and Larry Holmes
     
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    I feel Ruiz would have done a lot better v the li that fought Lyle than Ron actually did in that fight, Ali didn`t look good in that bout at all and Lyle was pretty poor too, I agree with Ruiz beating Cooper, but they both had/have fast powerful left hooks, that would have made that bout interesting, AJ dropped Ruiz with a hook.
     
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    He did, but Ali was fighting scheduled 15 round fights every month on his European tour at that stage.
     
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