I think for the list, i will consider one fighter, put him in one division. His best division, be it by ability or resume. Then, rate the fighter from Day 1 of his professional career onwards. So regardless if the fight happens the LW , MW or HW, his entire body of work will be rated in his best division. So I have Sam Langford as #1 01. Sam Langford 02. Ezzard Charles 03. Archie Moore 04. Roy Jones Jr. 05. Gene Tunney 06. Michael Spinks 07. Tommy Loughran 08. Bob Foster 09. Billy Conn 10. Joe Calzaghe 11. Jimmy Bivins 12. James Toney 13. Harold Johnson 14. Tommy Gibbons 15. Andre Ward/ John Henry Lewis/Matthew Saad Muhammed
h2h Delaney would lose and whatever wins at lhw you think he has over them doesn’t make up for that. Nobody else even mentions Delaney at all. Does that make you feel better? You’ve liked more than a few of my posts lmao. Guess I’m only an idiot when it suits you.
So no lists then? Okay dumbass, stick to Heavyweights. And why is it a given that he'd lose to Maxim? He wouldn't even be his best win, and Maxim lost to far worse than Delaney. Who gives a **** if no one mentions Delaney? Hardly anyone mentions John Henry Lewis and he's one of the best ever. Same with Loughran. Oh and your H2H point is moot. Delaney beat Rosenbloom and Loughran, so he should be over them right? No? Huh? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
You haven't provided any facts other than "Delaney's top 5 wins are better" which is an opinion. A rather deluded one at that. Can you even name his top 5 wins?
Delaney beating Rosenbloom and Loughran is a fact... as is people not mentioning Lewis and Loughran as much as Harold Johnson and Saad Muhammad. So is that Maxim lost to objectively worse fighters than Delaney. It seems you skip over facts, in favour of trying to style out an embarrassing moment for you. What you so you think Jones and Foster have a better top 5 at LHW? what a clown. Yeah, I can. But you think Foster's top 5 are better so this is a lost cause.
Delaney's wins over a 19 year old Rosenbloom and 168 lb Loughran who had 0 legitimate lhw wins up until that point are pathetic reasons to put him above Foster, Jones, and Maxim. Your point about Maxim would make sense if I thought Maxim was a top 10 lhw. But it doesn't because Maxim isn't a top 10 lhw and neither is Delaney. You're struggling to show any reasons to put Delaney in the top 10. I don't care about their top 5 at lhw compared to Delaney. Delaney doesn't even have a top 5 according to you. I've asked you to produce them yet all you manage to barf up are a 19 year old Rosenbloom and a not yet fully grown middleweight. You would have done it already.
So is a win not good because he's the older guy? Was Sánchez's win over Nelson not good either? Delaney beat an ATG who'd go onto beat ATGs for years after Delaney retired. Take it or leave it. Loughran had already beaten Greb lmao. We actually agree on that point. Neither are top 10. Smart arse, I asked YOU to before. That's why I haven't. If you don't think Delaney has a great résumé, whilst backing bob Foster, then there's really no hope for you. Good, coz I don't have him top 10, smart arse... Spinks over Moore? Gibbons over Lewis? Stick to HWs dumbass
It's not a good win because Maxie was 19. Still was barely more than a middleweight and had fought barely more than middleweights. Only a couple of light heavies with absolutely no significant wins. This is incredibly misleading. Greb and Loughran fought 6 times and went 1-4-1 with Greb having the far better of the meetings. The one fight that Loughran managed to win he eaked out a decision that, according to the Boston Globe, the majority of people thought he lost. The only time that they fought for 15 rounds, Greb dominated. I wasn't the one who claimed I could name Delaney's top 5 wins. You won't name them because the only names you can produce I've torn apart. The only guy you have left might be Paul Berlenbach lmao. God forbid I make a mistake in a thread about top 10 lhw lists. Especially since you consider him better than Jones Jr and Foster. It's one slot. It doesn't matter. Especially when Spinks passes the eye test and was dominant at lhw. Moore has the better resume but Spinks could get the win h2h. Absolutely. He'd beat him h2h. Lmao what a dweeb