Debating my top ten SMW list

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020.


Page 1 of 13
  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,800
    22,032
    Sep 15, 2009
    OK so I rank mainly on H2H, although that doesn't strictly mean the eye test, resume has to be considered so we know the level at which a fighter is performing.

    I only include fighters I've watched fight, and I tend not to include active fighters as their placing is too dynamic.

    So here's my SMW list

    Rank First Last
    1 Roy Jones Jr
    2 James Toney
    3 Andre Ward
    4 Carl Froch
    5 Joe Calzaghe
    6 Mikel Kessler
    7 Nigel Benn
    8 Chris Eubank
    9 Sven Ottke
    10 Byron Mitchell



    Are there any people you feel should be in that aren't? Any orders that need changing?
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    #1
    Clinton likes this.
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,133
    44,921
    Mar 3, 2019
    #10. Nigel Benn
    #9. Chong Pal Park
    #8. Chris Eubank Sr
    #7. James Toney
    #6. Steve Collins
    #5. Mikkel Kessler
    #4. Carl Froch
    #3. Roy Jones Jr
    #2. Joe Calzhage
    #1. André Ward

    Could switch things up.
     
    George Crowcroft, Jun 3, 2020
    George Crowcroft, Jun 3, 2020
    #2
    KeedCubano, Seamus and Clinton like this.
  3. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,237
    6,503
    Jan 22, 2009
    Interesting choice putting Chong Pal Park at 9. Good job.
     
    Clinton, Jun 3, 2020
    Clinton, Jun 3, 2020
    #3
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  4. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,901
    9,152
    Apr 9, 2020
    I don't care if they're super middleweights or not, they're just middleweights.
     
    William Walker, Jun 3, 2020
    William Walker, Jun 3, 2020
    #4
    Bulldog24 likes this.
  5. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,238
    7,120
    Sep 11, 2018
    Can’t see Froch above Calzaghe or even Ward above Calzaghe. Jones is the best but it was a brief stint. Maybe it’s just me but I find Ward vastly overrated.
     
    ChrisJS, Jun 3, 2020
    ChrisJS, Jun 3, 2020
    #5
    BitPlayerVesti, KeedCubano, Man_Machine and 2 others like this.
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,800
    22,032
    Sep 15, 2009
    What?
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    #6
    Richard M Murrieta and George Crowcroft like this.
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,800
    22,032
    Sep 15, 2009
    I think Ward is a clear level above Calzaghe tbh.

    Regarding Froch I'm one of the few who thinks Froch would have beaten him.

    But as always, when I post these lists, in open for debata and open to have my mind changed.
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    lufcrazy, Jun 3, 2020
    #7
    BitPlayerVesti, George Crowcroft and Clinton like this.
  8. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,901
    9,152
    Apr 9, 2020
    it speaks for itself
     
    William Walker, Jun 3, 2020
    William Walker, Jun 3, 2020
    #8
  9. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,066
    11,273
    Aug 16, 2018
    1. Calzaghe
    2. Ward
    3.Jones
    4. Kessler
    5. Froch
    6.Toney
    7.Ottke
    8.Benn
    9.Collins
    10. Mitchell/Beyer/Eubank
     
    AwardedSteak863, Jun 3, 2020
    AwardedSteak863, Jun 3, 2020
    #9
    Richard M Murrieta, KeedCubano and George Crowcroft like this.
  10. DavidBarnes

    DavidBarnes Member banned Full Member

    325
    394
    Dec 8, 2019
    Prime Jones whoops em all
     
    DavidBarnes, Jun 3, 2020
    DavidBarnes, Jun 3, 2020
    #10
    Richard M Murrieta, Loudon, KeedCubano and 1 other person like this.
  11. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,718
    352
    Jul 12, 2007
    Using only the names you’ve listed, I would have them in this order:

    Jones Jr.
    Calzaghe
    Ward
    Toney
    Froch
    Eubank
    Benn
    Kessler
    Ottke
    Mitchell

    Toney and Ward are hard to separate for me and are nearly interchangeable. I plead ignorance on the last two; I was never moved to give them a look in two decades of following boxing.
     
    Quick Cash, Jun 3, 2020
    Quick Cash, Jun 3, 2020
    #11
    Loudon likes this.
  12. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,492
    5,669
    Dec 31, 2018
    1. Joe Calzaghe
    2. Roy Jones Jr
    3. James Toney
    4. Andre Ward
    5. Chris Eubank Sr
    6. Nigel Benn
    7. Carl Froch
    8. Mikkel Kessler
    9. Sven Ottke
    10. Sakio Bika
     
    Devon, Jun 3, 2020
    Devon, Jun 3, 2020
    #12
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    61,822
    46,538
    Feb 11, 2005
    It's not just you.
     
    Seamus, Jun 3, 2020
    Seamus, Jun 3, 2020
    #13
  14. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

    683
    1,036
    Apr 23, 2019
    H2h, I'd rank Liles ahead of Mitchell and Ottke.
     
    Golden_Feather99, Jun 3, 2020
    Golden_Feather99, Jun 3, 2020
    #14
  15. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,355
    4,230
    Aug 2, 2013
    1. Watson
    2. Toney
    3. Jones
    4. Eubank
    5. Calzaghe
    6. Benn
    7. Ward
    8. Rocchigiani
    10. Nunn/Liles

    Froch and Park aren't near that class. Flat-footed fighters Kessler and Holmes beat them clearly for a start.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2020
    Bulldog24, Jun 3, 2020
    Bulldog24, Jun 3, 2020
    #15
Page 1 of 13