Toney vs Holyfield Breakdown | Philly Shell vs. Cross Guard

Maybe Philadelphia, a village in Germany.

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It's a BS made up name. I'm born in Philadelphia and still live in the surrounding area. Trained in 3 different gyms when I was young and would drive my son to another when I was older and not once did I ever hear that term used. Matter of fact I never heard the term shoulder roll either but I do use that term only because it seems to be universally accepted at this point.

 

Mark I appreciate your description but I know the mechanics of different styles guys use. My issue is with the made up name Philly Shell. Alot of Philadelphia fighters have a distinct style just like many fighters from Detroit. Again though Philly Shell is a product of someone's imagination.
For one instance my son was taught a very traditional style in Philadelphia. Hands up elbows in bending at the knees to avoid shots weight more on the back foot. I was taught a looser lower left hand relying very heavily on the jab while having more weight on the front foot. Neither style here had a name it just was how you were taught alot of times it depended on the trainer at the gym nothing more nothing less.

 

I don't get your point...

 

Do a search on the supposed “Philly Shell” and you wont find any results before 2010. If you think James Toney and Mayweather “perfected” the “Philly Shell” why is it called the “Philly Shell”? Those guys are from Michigan and had nothing to do with Philadelphia. How many Philadelphia fighters used the “Philly Shell?” Everybody that shoulder rolls and counters over the top with a right is using the “Philly Shell”? I didnt realize Duran was from Philly. I didnt realize Joe Gans was from Philly. My point is the term “Philly Shell” is a made up fake term devised by hipster morons who wouldnt know a Philly boxer if he walked up and punched them in the face. And the only thing Mayweather perfected was cherry picking an already ridiculously watered down sport. He perfected the Roy Jones method. Fat contract, least risk for the most reward or the easiest paper championship. He sure as **** didnt have anything to do with Philadelphia. But you go on believing that, LOL. Mayweather is doing the same thing technique wise that Gans perfected a century before Mayweather. And like I said, Gans wasnt using the “Philly Shell” either.

 

The Philly shell is just another name for a defensive position and theory that has been around forever. You know what he means when he says it.

 

George Benton never referred to his style as the “Philly Shell”. If he had nobody in Philadelphia would have known what the hell he was talking about. You didnt say Floyd used the shoulder roll well. You said he perfected it. Floyd didnt perfect ****. He utilizes a style that was never called the “Philly Shell” before him against a lower class of opponent than other greats who used the same style for a century before him at a higher level. Go find me a quote by Benton from his lifetime describing his style as the “Philly Shell” you cant and even if you could what would that have to do with the Mayweathers or Toney? Nothing. Like I said, its dumbass fake made up name by people who dont know what they are talking about but want to sound cool.

 

Add "Philadelphia" Max Schmeling to the list of my favorite nicknames, along with "Tokyo" Douglas (I like Tokyo better than Buster) and "Sugar" Valuev (I laugh every time I see that).

"Philadelphia" Max Schmeling. So great.