Primo Carnera vs. James J. Braddock

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime for prime. Who wins? I'd go with Braddock by TKO somewhere after 10.
     
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  2. The Professor

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    I think you're right, Braddock by late TKO
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I give it to Carnera. Too big, too strong, too good of a jab.
     
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  4. William Walker

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    Not to disagree necessarily, but Braddock way outpointed the clowning Baer who dominated Carnera.
     
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  5. janitor

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    Carnera by decision most likely.
     
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  6. Berlenbach

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    Carnera did beat Tommy Loughran, who completely clowned Braddock in a title fight.

    I actually favour Carnera too. Braddock was much more inconsistent.
     
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  7. janitor

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    Carnera was consistent.

    He was not as good as the very best men of the era, but against the men who were not quite in that category, he generally took care of business.
     
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  8. Berlenbach

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    I actually think Carnera is underrated. Not great by any means but not the hapless bum he's often painted as either.
     
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  9. William Walker

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    Carnera was more consistent, but I think they inconsistent Braddock was still better than the consistent Carnera. I mean, little old Jack Sharkey gave him an absolute whipping. If Sharkey could do it, Braddock could.
     
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  10. janitor

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    Sharkey was a lot better than Braddock
     
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  11. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C'mon, cut the jokes.
     
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  12. janitor

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    Sharkey has one of the deeper resumes of all the heavyweight champions, and Braddock has one of the thinnest.

    Sharkey at his best was a class above, and possibly even two classes!
     
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  13. William Walker

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    I agree, but I still think Braddock was more SKILLED. Some fighters, like Sharkey in my opinion, had so many good wins just because he was tough and could hit. To me, Braddock was a good boxer, and compared to guys like Sharkey, Baer, and Carnera, had a much higher SKILL level. I completely agree that Braddock's record has only a handful of good wins compared to the other 30s heavyweights and that Braddock was inconsistent.
     
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  14. janitor

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    I see things the other way round to be honest!

    Sharkey had exquisite skills, but he was a headcase.

    Braddock had kind of limited skills, but he was an arch overachiever.
     
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  15. William Walker

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    Well, I see we'll only go round and round on this. Don't worry, I don't hate you for thinking Sharkey was better. Oh well. So do you think Sharkey would beat Braddock?
     
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