Sugar Ray Robinson vs Bernard Hopkins

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  1. DavidBarnes

    DavidBarnes Member banned Full Member

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    160 Who Wins
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m going with Robinson by decision. More speed and higher work rate.
     
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  3. 88Chris05

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    Tough fight for Ray, who wasn't quite as brilliant at 160 as he was at 147 and who occasionally struggled against physicality and rough stuff up close or inside - and Hopkins certainly brings those to the table.

    That said, Ray the Middleweight still had great hand speed, which Hopkins was always a little vulnerable against (Jones, Taylor, Calzaghe etc.). Also a lot more durable, classier and hard-punching than most of the guys Hopkins faced at Middleweight. Hopkins would try and break the rhythm and make it scrappy but I think Robinson's speed and movement proves a bit too much for him.

    Robinson by competitive decision.
     
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  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd take the Robinson of the V-day massacre to clearly decision Hopkins.
     
  5. Flo_Raiden

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    SRR clearly. SRR's offense shuts down Bernard Hopkins' workrate. Hopkins always struggled with guys with fast hands and feet and he'll be waiting too long to try and counter SRR while SRR is constantly hitting and moving.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Prime Sugar Ray Robinson out works and out speeds Bernard Hopkins to win a unanimous decision.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Ray
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Mas Azugar, por favor aye!
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll go against the grain here and pick Hopkins. Bernard's bag of tricks was varied enough that I think he can consistently break Ray's rhythm and scrap his way to a decision, while exhibiting good defense, a solid chin, and being able to find different ways to disguise his right.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll disagree with ya, I seriously doubt Bernard brings much to the table Sugar Ray Robinson hasn't seen before . Ray by UD in 15 , around 144-141.
     
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  11. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Azucar*
     
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  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At 160 I have BHOP. No doubt Ray is better pound for pound but he was at his best at 147 in the same day weigh in era. A lot folks forget how physical and strong Bhop was at 160. I see him grinding Ray down for a UD win.
     
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  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  14. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Hi everyone, I was wondering how many fighters of Hopkins size ( BHops is a VERY large middleweight who was six ft one inch tall with a seventy six inch reach ) did the great Sugar Ray fight ?

    Sugar Ray was usually the taller fighter with a longer reach in his fights.

    Bernard was at least as big a guy as Joey Maxim.

    When Robinson fought taller, skilled boxer types like Bell and Gavilan he was given a good, competitive fight.

    I would give the prime version of Hopkins ( from the Glenn Johnson to Trinidad fights ) an excellent chance of outpointing Robinson due to his size advantage and his overall boxing skill.

    Robinson is without a doubt the greater fighter but size does matter in boxing.

    Cheers All.
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

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    Azucar is sugar in spanish, my friend.
     
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