Prime De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather @140?

Floyd has fast feet, fast hands, better Defence, ring generalship and accuracy than De La Hoya. The 10 ounce gloves were for Oscar’s benefit because with 8 ounce gloves and Floyd’s accuracy only Oscar getting damaged. I also don’t buy the bull**** that he was not at his best when they fought as in his previous he stopped Mayorga.

 

I saw Oscar’s career and he has serious problems at elite level especially with guys who are faster and more skillful. Evidence Mosley, Pacquiao, Trinidad, Quartey etc.

This might be controversial to a lot of you but I really don’t consider Oscar a truly great fighter. I consider him a very very good talented fighter who was popular.

 

I also remember Oscar was stopped twice and put on his backside.

 

It’s so amazing Floyd only loses in hypothetical match ups when he fights these guys in real fights he wins comfortably.

 

Oscar was a phenom at 135 and 140,

Extremely bad stylistic match up for Mayweather. Oh people forget just how great a young, prime, undefeated Oscar DLH was, the man was 3 rounds away from securing the fighter of the decade for the 90's, yet most people remember post 90's rich boy Oscar who fought less than once a year and was already disinterested in the sport.


Oscar has the experience, height, reach, power and most of all jab to comfortably beat Mayweather either at 140 or 47.

 

It's amazing how you ignore what happened in real life to go off on your own tangents.

Loads of people pick Floyd in real life over ATGs, based off what happened in his career. In said career, he was ran close by an old De La Hoya and would've lost big time to a younger one.

 

Stopped once by a MW.... Who'd beat almost every WW in history (Floyd isn't included in that BTW) and it was off a controversial body shot. The other he retired on his stool, that's not being put 'on his backside'.

 

DLH beat a younger, fresher version of Gatti less time than Mayweather did before Gatti's 3 brutal wars with Ward. It's not anywhere close to any of DLH's top wins, so it shouldn't be for Floyd. At 140 DLH made Chavez quit and was the first person to beat the underrated Gonzalez, winning nearly every round.

 

Pbf beats any version of oscar better more complete fighter. There's no way in hell oscar is outboxing pbf over the course of 12 rounds.

 

Very old is stretch it was at a weight pbf has never looked good at 154 and the fight wasn't close 9-3 or 8-4 at worst this fight would be at 140 which i feel pbf was at his peak at.

 

We saw what happened in real life and it was not close . Floyd won clearly despite Oscar having all the A-side advantages. It’s a fallacy to claim it was close. It was not. If I am correct the age gap between them is about 4 years so presumably if they fought when Oscar was younger Floyd would have been younger. You claim I go off on my tangent when I point out facts to you. What particularly aspects of boxing is Oscar better than Floyd at? I struggle to see that whereas in so many categories Floyd is better from speed, quickness, Defence, accuracy, stamina, ring generalship, personality, ring generalship, combination punching,ring IQ etc. To top it off he made more money which pisses Oscar off. Oscar was good Floyd was better. In the moments of truth when facing the highest caliber opponents Oscar performance levels dropped whilst Floyd rose to the challenge and won. Oscar’s persona is that of a fake. You may or may not like Floyd’s persona but he is for real.

 

Barely beat him has become one of the biggest myths in boxing. You can't name 5 rounds that oscar won in that fight. It wasn't close pbf clearly won that fight on oscar's terms. Maidana and cotto gave pbf a harder and closer fight than oscar did.

 

Pacquiao stopped him as well. What was controversial with BHop’s body shot? Oscar could not get up and was banging his fists on the canvas. Ike Quartey also put him on the floor.

 

Why? Oscar's prime was 10 years prior (he was definitely at his best under Rivero), he'd lose to the biggest names he'd fought for years beforehand, and had one fight in 3 years before it. Oscar was noticeably slower, had even less stamina and would retire 2 fights later.

He was VERY old. This is an unavoidable fact.

He didn't look good vs Canelo? Y'know, the one who's P4P #1 right now (and in your mind hasn't improved since)?

This was Floyd before his first retirement, he was absolutely prime.

Only a fanboy would think that AT WORST that was 8-4 Floyd. I had it 8-4 Floyd, but anything from 8-4 to 6-6 was fine. Floyd did in no way win 9 rounds lol.

Sure, I think he was best at 130 but that's by the by. Del a Hoya was definitely at his best here IMO. The much better conditioned, quicker, but still bigger and stronger De La Hoya at 140 (who also had the best team of his career around him) is still gonna give Floyd everything he could handle, and then some.

 

Please let’s stop the bull**** excuses that he was disinterested in the sport fighting less than once a year as if that is even a valid or respectable excuse. He was never the fighter of the 90s. There is a difference between being very popular and being the best. When he fought Floyd his height, reach, so called power and his A side advantages did not help him win did it? When Floyd became a millionaire, multimillionaire, billionaire and the richest sportsman in history without endorsements he still trained as if he was broke because he lived the life, dedicated his life to boxing unlike some other hypocrites who despite their fake Golden Boy image indulged in smoking narcotics, abused alcohol, cheated on their wife, were closet tranvestites etc . Yes Oscar became disinterested in boxing but guess he was interested in other things. Floyd kicked Oscar arse and would always kick his ass. He defeated other guys who also kicked Oscar’s arse like Pacquiao and Mosley.