Prime De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather @140?

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Who Wins?

  1. De La Hoya PTS

    48.4%
  2. Mayweather PTS

    35.5%
  3. De La Hoya KO

    8.6%
  4. Mayweather KO

    3.2%
  5. Draw/Can't Decide

    4.3%
  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Yes they would be better versions of themselves which favors Floyd. You do do know they are fairly close in age just 3/4 years age difference.
     
  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Why would Floyd fight B-Hop at 157 pounds when Floyd had become the A-Side. If B-Hop wanted his ass taxed it’s for him to offer to come down to Floyd’s weight to get his arse-kicking. Floyd is a better fighter than B-Hop is a fact. B-Hop can be a clown at times he said he won’t speak or something silly if Fury stops Wilder.
     
  3. African Cobra

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    Sorry don’t get it. DVD for what?
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    You think Floyd beats Hopkins? :loel:
     
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  5. African Cobra

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    At 154 pounds and 147 pounds definitely.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    I said at 157.
     
  7. African Cobra

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    Like I said the A side don’t have to move up in weight. Floyd won’t fight at 157 pounds. That shows Floyd is smart Oscar is stupid.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    The comparison was for Floyd vs Oscar's opponents. Oscar (the overwhelming A-side) fought Hopkins at 157.

    That is why I asked. If you can't stomach saying Floyd loses, and are looking for ways around it, you're even more pathetic than MVC and the like.
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    Floyd will not fight at 157 pounds period when he was not even a junior middleweight has never weighed 154 in his life. If Hopkins wants to fight Floyd then he comes down to 154 and get his arse kicked or do you really think Hopkins can beat Floyd at 154 or 147 pounds?
     
  10. Loudon

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    You’re deluded.

    Nobody is scoring that fight 9-3.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You’re not schooling anyone.

    I enjoy debating with you. But you’re so defensive of Floyd it gets embarrassing.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    Yeah, I’m sure you’d have said that if that had happened to Floyd.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Oh my days. It's not a hard question. Do you think Floyd beats the B-Hop of the De La Hoya fight?

    If B-Hop could miraculously drain down to 154, then yes, I think he'd be far too hampered to beat Floyd. However, that's not the B-Hop which De La Hoya fought. Do you think Mayweather could beat that Hopkins. NO OTHER SCENARIO. No weight draining, no other weights. THAT VERSION, at 157. Who wins?
     
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  14. African Cobra

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    Speak for yourself. Evan Korn and I watched it together he had it 9-3 to Floyd I had it 8-4 to Floyd.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Okay.

    Let’s be objective.

    He beat Tito. He should have engaged him in the last 3 rounds, but he’d already done enough. They were bad tactics, but it was a clear win for most people. No bias.

    Shane Mosley was in his prime and just a great fighter. It wasn’t the version who Floyd fought. It was a peak version. There’s no shame in losing to a peak Mosley.

    Despite what you claim, a faded version of Oscar pushed Floyd hard and it was a close fight.

    Sturm was robbed, but he had no business fighting at MW.

    Bernard Hopkins was an ATG MW who should have been fighting at SMW-LHW when he fought Oscar in 2004. He was a bully. He was naturally much bigger and stronger, so there’s no shame in losing to him. It actually reflects badly on Bernard.

    Now let’s be realistic. Yes, Floyd was a great fighter. But considering that he never beat an ATG whilst they were prime, and that he struggled with a faded version of Oscar, it’s not inconceivable to think that Floyd may not have been able to have beaten all those guys who Oscar fought.