the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Watt vs Arguello

Alexis has fought a couple of fights at LW but not really done too well imo.

Fernandez shows he open to being outboxed and worryingly Ramirez shows he's open to being outbrawled.

The fight with Duran was long gone but Alexis wanted to prove the doubters wrong and boy did he do that here.

Watt has a terrific jab but is not quicker than Alexis, he was unable to use his movement to keep away from him.

As good as his jab was it wasn't as good as Arguellos and he certainly couldn't win the exchanges.

Arguello boxed a very good fight here pounding out the decision and he showed there's much more to his game than simply wear a man down and knock him out.

Watt was by no means a great LW, but he was a world class one and Alexis showed he belonged at this level.

I didn't actually score it as I'm used to Arguello winning by knockout.

But Alexis seemed in control all of the way through the fight and certainly deserved it by a wide margin.

 

Arguello vs Mancini

Mancini does a great job here but he's a bit too offensive at times and a banger like that is tailor made for Arguello.

Arguello vs Ganigan see above. You can't punch with him.

Pryor vs Cervantes

This is a brutal beatdown. Made even worse when Pambele lands his hail Mary shot and Pryor gets back up and keeps coming.

All out offence.

I reckon it doesn't take a genius to work out which duo of fights are next on my list.

 

During the HBO Legendary Nights doc on Pryor Arguello, when interviewing Arguello's son he says that his dad was a "15 round fighter," and sooo many of his fights seem to bear that out to different degrees. The Mancini fight included. Against the better opponents on his resume he often would get touched up quite a bit, and Mancini was finding him easy to touch as well for a lot of the earlier part of the fight but, it must've been daunting to opponents to get in to the last third of the fight and see Arguello looking as fresh as in round one. Very much a 15 rd fighter

 

Man, I didn't want to but I knew it was inevitable.

Arguello vs Pryor 1&2

You have to understand, I've watched so much of Arguello in the last few days, not quite a career set, but an awful lot. From the young boy chasing Marcel around the ring, to the man who dismantled Olivares and cut a swathe through the FW and SFW division, to the man who struggled at times but proved his greatness at LW. I've gone through all of that in the last few days.

And I prayed I'd got it wrong. I prayed he capitalised on that 13th round and knocked Pryor out, but it didn't happen. I then prayed it was only the "other bottle" that cost him the fight but alas that wasn't to be either.

These fights are great action fights but seeing such a classy great fighter brutally stopped twice is tough.

Pryor fights a great fight the way he switches offence and defence, front foot and back foot, he mixed it up and kept his work rate going throughout.

But ultimately it was size that won him the fight. He could take the power of Arguello and the coverse wasn't true.

Make Arguello a natural LWW and he wins. The shots he lands knock Pryor out.

Hell after watching these two fights I'm half way convinced Kostya lands enough right hands to knock out Pryor.

I've watched that much Arguello every thing else seems a life time ago.

Probably this time last week I was watching highlights of Duran but I don't even remember if I wrote about any of them on here. All I remember is Alexis.

Rip champ.

 

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10 : 9
10 : 9
10 : 9
10 : 9
10 : 9 (50/45)
9 : 10*
10 : 9*
10 : 9
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Much more Pep in his Step than the third fight, he bounced around, cutting his rhythm up and at times looked like a discount Pep, the way he suddenly switched direction and moved his head to the opposite way he moved. High-level skills.

Predominantly an outside fighter, Brown showed some nice moves on the inside too. I liked how he rolled the shots off his forearms and countered with shorter shots. Hardly unique, but classy, all the same.

Very clear win, but there was some decent action in the mid rounds, which was very competitive.

I think Old Bones is a real hipster's choice. I can see why though, he's sublimely skilled and his boxing was sooooooo aesthetically pleasing.

 

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9 : 10*
10 : 9
10 : 9
10 : 9 (49/46)
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Slow start, Brown looks to be etching his groove into the fight, and not doing anything he doesn't need to. Slip in the third doesn't help either. After that, it's one-way traffic. Brown takes control, keeps Bud guessing and never looks back.

Old Bones showing some stunning movement in this fight, both lineal and lateral. Combined with a fast, snappy jab, elusive head-movement and some awesome parries and blocks. I love the way he slips the jab, and lands a left hook inside. Very reminiscent of Charles.

 

This is one of the best jabbing displays I've ever seen.

I was flabbergasted when Ortiz was able to out jab him.

 

So I just need to find 2 hours to watch the Benitez fights against Palomino and Cervantes.

When I watched them first years back I essentially had Benitez taking every round both times. And I've always seen him as a bit of a H2H god at 140.

Will be interesting to see if this is still the case.

 

Definitely didn't win every round imo. Not even close, both were competitive. IIRC I had Cervantes 8-7 for Benítez, and Palomino 9-6 for Benítez.

Yeah, watched that last night too although I didn't score. I thought Ortiz won nearly every round.

Brown vs Arguello?

 

Bones has the style and skills to give Arguello fits, he has the discipline to spam the jab all night long.

But he doesn't have the endurance to take Arguellos beat shots, and he will land them.

Arguello come from behind ko.

 

Evander Holyfield vs Carlos De Leon

Holy : Leon

1: 9 - 10 (Interesting action opener)
2: 10 - 9 (Holy bulling Leon onto the ropes)
3: 10 - 9 (Holy dominating the in fight, though Leon is getting licks in)
4: 10 - 9 (Good, close fighting, but Holy is sharper and more effective)
5: 10 - 9 (Holy just landing cleaner)
6: 10 - 9 (Clear round for The Real Deal)
7: 10 - 9 (Competitive, but still clear. Last stand for Leon)
8: TKO

TOTAL: 69 - 64 HOLYFIELD

Notes:

• Exemplary performance from Holyfield, showcasing his skills and strength. The aggression and bouncing, baiting footwork was extremely high level, but Leon was very game.
• Disgraceful commentary. Pacheco was absolutely God awful.
• HD quality!

 

Cervantes - Benitez

1:9-10
2:9-10
3:9-10
4:9-10
5:10-9
6:9-10
7:9-10
8:9-10
9:10-9
10:10-9
11:9-10
12:10-9
13:10-9
15:9-10
15:9-10

140-145

This fight is every bit the virtuoso performance I remembered.

Benitez is so slick and smooth here.

Great great performance

 

Erik Morales v Manny Pacquiao I

Mario and Jel had recently watched this one which piqued my interest on it. I saw it when it was televised live, but now pen to paper.

Round 1: 10-9 Pac
Round 2: 10-9 Morales
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Morales
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Pac
Round 7: 10-9 Morales
Round 8: 10-9 Morales
Round 9: 10-9 Pac
Round 10: 10-9 Morales
Round 11: 10-9 Morales
Round 12: 10-9 Pac

Total: 116-114 Morales (actual scores: 115-113 X 3 for Morales)

Terrific fight punctuated by a terrific rounds 11 and 12. Just left you wanting more, but they left nothing on the table. Two great warriors.

 

Never watched Benitez vs Palomino, instead I watched some highlights of Chavez and Pea at LW and LWW and man they were amazing.

Really special talents.

Chavez is slightly below Armstrong and Duran imo for pressure fighting, but still absolutely world class and one of the best ever.

Whitaker is slightly below Leonard (Benny) and Gans imo for outfighting but still absolutely world class and one of the best ever.

The talent in these divisions is unreal.

So hard splitting fighters. And I can't ignore the fight between Pea and Chavez, but I also can't ignore it was at a higher weight and past Julios prime. And he made it look so easy against Mancini.

Man two immense talents.