Rocky Marciano vs Frank Bruno

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Of the elite Bruno failed to stop Witherspoon,Tyson,Lewis,and Smith,do you think Marciano would?

    If the answer is no ,then Marciano isn't an elite fighter either is he!
    How about Cokkell, does he go 9 rounds with Bruno?
    Does Lastarza go the distance and 11 rds second time around ?

    You've laid out your criteria for a fighter to be judged ,"an elite puncher"
    I've employed it!
     
  2. mcvey

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    If you are 240lbs and your opponent is 185lbs what is to stop you holding him and rendering him harmless once he gets inside your reach.
    ps Bruno is no 188lbs Moore, Charles, 185lbs Lastarza,or 179lbs Mathews.
    Neither is he a 24lbs over his best weight glandular case like Cokkell ,or a walking relic like 37 years old Louis.
    Bruno didn't seem to find it too difficult to either hit ,or tie up Tyson once he had closed the gap.
    NB Tyson was around 30lbs heavier than Rocky.
     
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  3. janitor

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    I don't know, but I am sure that he would have stopped some elite fighters in that era.

    I think that he would have beaten Smith and Witherspoon, and probably the post prison version of Tyson.
    I wouldn't bet any money on Bruno blowing these guys out.
     
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  4. janitor

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    He might know how to infight?
     
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  5. mcvey

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    So you aren't saying Marciano would ko them? Yet because Bruno failed to he isn't an elite puncher?
    How exactly does that work?
     
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  6. janitor

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    I am saying that I would not consider Marciano to be an all time puncher, if every top ten opponent that he had faced, had taken him the distance.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Lol post prison Tyson was still superior in ever way except Stamina, heart, and on the inside.
     
  8. janitor

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    Those are quite crucial areas there.
     
  9. Jackomano

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    This. Marciano was an excellent infighter and actually broke bigger men down easier. A lot of guys tended to headhunt against Bruno, but his body was always an easy target, which is something Marciano would take full advantage of.

    Also, Bruno would last longer against Marciano coming in at around 225 lbs than he would at 240 lbs, since Bruno in my opinion had very limited mobility when his weight was over 230 lbs and his punch volume suffered.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Which big men? Which big men of any class did he break down ?
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Granted.

    I just don't think Marciano can beat Bruno so I must pick even post prison Mike to bomb out Rocky (though I'd give him a much better shot against Holyfield because of styles). P4P Marciano obviously ****s all over them both but we have to be realistic here.
     
  12. choklab

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    In all honesty, I think this fight goes exactly the same way as Marciano vs Joe Louis.

    At world level, was 1990s Frank Bruno ever better than a 1951 version of Joe Louis?

    51’ Louis wouldn’t have done any worse against Lennox Lewis and Tyson than Frank did. And 51’ Louis probably does just as well against McCall and Carl Williams.
     
  13. janitor

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    I am genuinely struggling to process this sentence!

    Where has this bizarre revisionist idea that Bruno was some head to head monster come from?
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I don't think he was a H2H monster. This is simply a mismatch. Bruno has 50-60 pounds on Marciano, and gave both two all time greats in Lewis and Tyson problems so let's not pretend he was just some skillless oaf .
     
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  15. janitor

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    It is a mismatch, but not for the reason that you think.

    Picking Bruno over Marciano, is almost tantamount to thinking that size is the only thing that matters!