Rocky Marciano vs Frank Bruno

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  1. mcvey

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    Yes he was a beatable fighter, but only beat 5 times, twice by Tyson an atg heavy, once by Lewis ,an atg heavy, once by Witherspoon a top 30 all time heavy and once by Smith ,who gave Holmes ,.an ATG heavy, a hard night.
    Did any non punchers floor Bruno?
     
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  2. janitor

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    It would have been easy enough to find a fighter like that in the era, if it was all that it would have taken to beat the champion.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    Well I can't find one in Marciano's era!
     
  4. janitor

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    You have to look at that another way.

    He lost every important fight of his career, except the McCall fight.

    I don't think that he beat anybody in the top ten, except McCall.

    You could argue that he was unlucky to share an era with Tyson or Lewis, but you can't really argue that he was unlucky to share and era with Smith or that version of Witherspoon.

    These were the only men who beat him, but you could also spin it that they were the only men with a pulse that he fought.
     
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  5. janitor

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    No because the men like Moore and Johnson beat them.
     
  6. janitor

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    If all that it took to be a world beater in Marciano's era was a Bruno, then you could just find a guy like this, and throw a lot of money at bringing him along.

    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/9377
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    I'm sure you can name them, then.

    Marciano didn't fight anyone like Bruno, and given the several advantages Bruno has over Rocky, I don't think it's out of the question for Bruno to beat him. After all, Bruno did better vs Lewis and Tyson than I'd ever peg Rocky to do.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    I fail to see how Powell compares to Bruno. Aside from being a decent puncher, and being 6'4, he doesn't have any of the advantages I said Bruno has. And Bruno never lost in one to Mike DeJohn.
     
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  9. janitor

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    This guy was the size of Valuev.

    If you are thinking along the right lines, then why didn't somebody just throw a shed load of resources at developing him as a fighter?

    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/37159
     
  10. janitor

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    Don't you get it?

    That is all that Bruno ever was, apart from having the right support and training!

    If that was enough to be successful in this era, then you would just find a fighter like that, and chuck resources ta them!
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    So you think Bruno would lose to DeJohn in a single round? Or do you think Powell could out-box Lewis or Witherspoon? How about beating Coetzee, Tillis or Williams? Bruno was far more than just a big, decent puncher.
     
  12. janitor

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    You don't seem to be understanding what I am saying here.

    I am not saying that these men were like Bruno.

    I am saying that it would have been relatively easy to build a Bruno clone in the 1950s.

    There was nothing particularly exceptional about him, apart from his size and power.

    The rest was basically taught.
     
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  13. choklab

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    Do you seriously think the 1951 joe Louis did not represent most of this?

    I’m a big fan of Bruno, and have met him. For all that made him exciting Frank was about as restricted at top level as the old Brown Bomber was. That’s the truth. At top level he couldn’t do much of what he was able to against second tier no hopers.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    No.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Marciano never found one did he?