Debating my top ten LMW list

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I mentioned Norris and Jackson myself.

    Nope, all 4 held championships at the weight class.

    What's your list?

    Why would I have Curry, Jones or Graham at the top of my list?
     
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    It's been a very long time since I've been called young so I'll happily take the compliment :)
     
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    No that's not what it means.

    H2H means who the best boxers were in that weight class, but you can only ascertain that with who they fought and how the fought against them.
     
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    Are you the same guy who tried telling me Watson should be number 1 at SMW?
     
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    I'm considering moving Tito higher tbh, I think the extra weight benefitted him greatly although I find it hard picking between him and Oscar.

    Yeah Terry Norris, I need to think his placement definitely.

    I think Carter caught lightning in a bottle against Griffith and Hearns would not have fought that way against him. Hearns to take a decision imo.
     
  6. Bulldog24

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    Dude you need to make your mind up on the criteria. Head to head ability is simply not the same as who actually achieved the most in real life at the weight, you're confused
     
  7. Bulldog24

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    And you're confusing us!
     
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    Based on your criteria, with a gun to my head?

    1- Julian Jackson
    2- Roy Jones Jr
    3- Herol Graham
    4- Mike McCallum (beats Jones)
    5- Don Curry
    6- Tommy Hearns (beats Graham, Jackson)
    7- Terry Norris
    8- Ray Leonard
    9- Wilfred Benitez
    10- Roberto Duran



    Based on my criteria

    1- Mike McCallum
    2- Terry Norris
    3- Julian Jackson
    4- Tommy Hearns
    5- Ray Leonard
    6- Ayub Kalule
    7- Nino Benvenuti
    8- Sandro Mazzinghi
    9- Wilfred Benitez
    10- Winky Wright
     
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    How is Herol Graham number 3 by my criteria?

    As for the second list, how is Duran higher than Benitez?
     
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    I've explained exactly what my criteria is.

    Please see the opening post.
     
  11. Bulldog24

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    You know what, I forgot Benitez
     
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    Graham at his peak back then in 83, with a gun pointed at me, would've beaten them all for me other than Hearns. 'H2H' as you say.
     
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    Updated list

    Rank First Last
    1 Thomas Hearns
    2 Emile Griffith
    3 Mike McCallum
    4 Winky Wright
    5 Floyd Mayweather
    6 Oscar De La Hoya
    7 Shane Mosley
    8 Tito Trinidad
    9 Julian Jackson
    10 Terry Norris
     
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    Why do you massively over rate these british fighters of the 80s and 90s

    I mean 83, what was his best victory at point, at what level where these H2H skills proven?

    He was a borderline top ten LMW in 1983,scraping in a ring ranking at the lower end.

    How can you possibly rate him as better than everyone else.

    Especially when Julian Jackson knocked him out!
     
  15. Bulldog24

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    He was WBC #1 contender to Hearns. If you watch him fight, he's not even taking one punch in 15 rounds, and landing sharp counters from all angles.

    He did well enough against McCallum when many years past his best. Clearly had been slowing for years.