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Prime De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather @140?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KeedCubano, Jun 5, 2020.

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Who Wins?

De La Hoya PTS

45 vote(s)

48.4%
Mayweather PTS

33 vote(s)

35.5%
De La Hoya KO

8 vote(s)

8.6%
Mayweather KO

3 vote(s)

3.2%
Draw/Can't Decide

4 vote(s)

4.3%

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titanic said: ↑

Not when the fight is legit.
At least it should be as legit as his fight against Victor Ortiz - The Best SUCKER PUNCH of the Century ....
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Hypocrite and hater!

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Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

Hypocrite and hater!
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That's your "Come Back" ?
YOU are the Pac hater. I wasn't even replying about Pacman and you jumped on me regarding Pacquiao. It is out of the topic.
I give you one advice - Accept that the fight against Ortiz was the SUCKER PUNCHof the Century or STFU.

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That's your "Come Back" ?
YOU are the Pac hater. I wasn't even replying about Pacman and you jumped on me regarding Pacquiao. It is out of the topic.
I give you one advice - Accept that the fight against Ortiz was the SUCKER PUNCHof the Century or STFU.
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I don’t hate Pacquiao at all. I think he is an all time great. I said he would beat Oscar De La Hoya at all weights including 140 pounds. Ortiz was not sucker punched. Ortiz behaved like a prat and deservedly got his lights put out!

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I don’t hate Pacquiao at all. I think he is an all time great. I said he would beat Oscar De La Hoya at all weights including 140 pounds. Ortiz was not sucker punched. Ortiz behaved like a prat and deservedly got his lights put out!
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Now you are taking back what you posted as a reply to me.
You are confused of yourself.
Get some rest. Enjoy your weekend. Ortiz was a Sucker punch, watch it again...
It' s 12:30am here, Goodnight.

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What is pretty clear is that the haters like Loudon and the so called Real Lance(inappropriately named because he may be many things but he is far from real) though claiming to be objectives are just Mayweather haters and trolls. They suffer from the condition of being Mayweathered! All that needs to be done is ***** them a little and the irrational hatred comes out. It’s pretty clear what it’s based on. They attribute mental illness to others which shows their sheer hypocrisy! What I love about my guys C.J. and even Pakkuman is that even though we don’t agree they are real guys who stand by their guys. C.J. loves Antonio Margarito, I don’t, we both have strong feelings about Margarito in the opposite directions but you know what I have come to respect C.J. you know why because he is a real dude. Yes we shall never agree on Margarito and Mayweather but I respect him he stands up for his guy and that at the very least commands my respect because he is not a hypocrite like Loudon who pretends to be objective but is merely a troll. Pakkuman loves Pacquiao to death and nothing wrong with that because as even Floyd said Pacquiao is not a normal fighter he is a very special fighter which Golden Girl Oscar de La Hoya is not. Big lesson for those who spout hate on this forum being a fan of one fighter does not mean you have to hate his opponents. Nobody is a bigger admirer of the changes Pacquiao made to his game than I am. I remember when he was a one handed assassin before he developed into a multi-dimensional scientific fighter. Just for the record I have a great deal if respect for almost all the fighters Floyd fought and beat with one 1 major exception the Golden Girl because she is a phenomenal hypocrite on so many levels. I don’t expect boxers to be paragons of virtue but Oscar really is something else. I come on this forum because I love boxing and happy to discuss boxing even contentious points with others but once certain types cross a line I refuse to dialogue with them as they are not worth my time. The one undeniable fact about Oscar De La Hoya is when you threw him into 50:50 fights he did not elevate his performance like great fighters do rather his performance level dropped which shows a weakness at the elite level. His fights against Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Pernell Whitaker, Mosley twice, Felix Sturm, Vargas and Hopkins prove my point. Before people think I hate Oscar let me make it clear I don’t like the man at all but you know what there are fighters I have disliked even more like the great Sugar Ray Leonard however despite my dislike for the smarmy Sugar Ray Leonard I readily hold up my hands to admit that not only is he an Alltime great he is clear in the top 10 greatest of all time and you can see why some consider him the greatest of all time based on his resume and performances at the elite win or lose. To show my objectivity whilst I know Floyd is a fighter for the ages, the best of his era maybe even the best ever I cannot honestly say to you head to head he at his best and they at their best he definitely beats Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Pryor but I cannot definitely say he does not beat them. I think he beats my heroes Don Curry and Azumah Nelson though you can see him winning and I think he at his very best defeats Julio Cesar Chavez at Junior Lightweight, Lightweight and Junior Welterweight even the Chavez that beat my man Edwin Rosario and Meldrick Taylor. It always makes me laugh when other boxers and their fans think Mayweather is not strong or tough before the fight and then when they get in with him it’s not at all like they thought. Thanks for a picture perfect career Floyd. They could not beat you for Real so the haters are left to beat you in their dreams but even there they fail woefully by bringing up Oscar de La Hoya of all the people.
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#TBE
#TMT
#MAYWEATHERSLIFEMATTERS

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Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

What is pretty clear is that the haters like Loudon and the so called Real Lance(inappropriately named because he may be many things but he is far from real) though claiming to be objectives are just Mayweather haters and trolls. They suffer from the condition of being Mayweathered! All that needs to be done is ***** them a little and the irrational hatred comes out. It’s pretty clear what it’s based on. They attribute mental illness to others which shows their sheer hypocrisy! What I love about my guys C.J. and even Pakkuman is that even though we don’t agree they are real guys who stand by their guys. C.J. loves Antonio Margarito, I don’t, we both have strong feelings about Margarito in the opposite directions but you know what I have come to respect C.J. you know why because he is a real dude. Yes we shall never agree on Margarito and Mayweather but I respect him he stands up for his guy and that at the very least commands my respect because he is not a hypocrite like Loudon who pretends to be objective but is merely a troll. Pakkuman loves Pacquiao to death and nothing wrong with that because as even Floyd said Pacquiao is not a normal fighter he is a very special fighter which Golden Girl Oscar de La Hoya is not. Big lesson for those who spout hate on this forum being a fan of one fighter does not mean you have to hate his opponents. Nobody is a bigger admirer of the changes Pacquiao made to his game than I am. I remember when he was a one handed assassin before he developed into a multi-dimensional scientific fighter. Just for the record I have a great deal if respect for almost all the fighters Floyd fought and beat with one 1 major exception the Golden Girl because she is a phenomenal hypocrite on so many levels. I don’t expect boxers to be paragons of virtue but Oscar really is something else. I come on this forum because I love boxing and happy to discuss boxing even contentious points with others but once certain types cross a line I refuse to dialogue with them as they are not worth my time. The one undeniable fact about Oscar De La Hoya is when you threw him into 50:50 fights he did not elevate his performance like great fighters do rather his performance level dropped which shows a weakness at the elite level. His fights against Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Pernell Whitaker, Mosley twice, Felix Sturm, Vargas and Hopkins prove my point. Before people think I hate Oscar let me make it clear I don’t like the man at all but you know what there are fighters I have disliked even more like the great Sugar Ray Leonard however despite my dislike for the smarmy Sugar Ray Leonard I readily hold up my hands to admit that not only is he an Alltime great he is clear in the top 10 greatest of all time and you can see why some consider him the greatest of all time based on his resume and performances at the elite win or lose. To show my objectivity whilst I know Floyd is a fighter for the ages, the best of his era maybe even the best ever I cannot honestly say to you head to head he at his best and they at their best he definitely beats Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Pryor but I cannot definitely say he does not beat them. I think he beats my heroes Don Curry and Azumah Nelson though you can see him winning and I think he at his very best defeats Julio Cesar Chavez at Junior Lightweight, Lightweight and Junior Welterweight even the Chavez that beat my man Edwin Rosario and Meldrick Taylor. It always makes me laugh when other boxers and their fans think Mayweather is not strong or tough before the fight and then when they get in with him it’s not at all like they thought. Thanks for a picture perfect career Floyd. They could not beat you for Real so the haters are left to beat you in their dreams but even there they fail woefully by bringing up Oscar de La Hoya of all the people.
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You are LITERALLY mentally ill.

You need to see a psychiatrist.

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titanic said: ↑

Now you are taking back what you posted as a reply to me.
You are confused of yourself.
Get some rest. Enjoy your weekend. Ortiz was a Sucker punch, watch it again...
It' s 12:30am here, Goodnight.
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Not taking back anything. This post is not about Pacquiao. Ortiz got what he deserved.

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Loudon said: ↑

You are LITERALLY mentally ill.

You need to see a psychiatrist.
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That probably took him longer to type out than my last thread.

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#TBE
#TMT
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Boxing Matters!

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Boxing Matters!
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Yes.

And Floyd wasn't half as good at is as you make out.

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titanic said: ↑

Accept that the fight against Ortiz was the SUCKER PUNCHof the Century or STFU.
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Ortiz was sucker-punched...after he intentionally rammed his head into Floyd's like a damn billygoat. I'd have kicked Ortiz in the nuts if he tried to act all 'my bad dude' afterwards.

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Yes.

And Floyd wasn't half as good at is as you make out.
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You have just displayed you have no credibility!

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Yes.

And Floyd wasn't half as good at is as you make out.
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We do know he was better than Oscar at it don’t we.

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One has to feel sorry for the Mayweather haters and trolls they really live sad lives!

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We do know he was better than Oscar at it don’t we.
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Arguably so overall.

Prime vs Prime? Possibly not.

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