If Tyson Fury defeats Anthony Joshua twice where would you rank him among the HW GOATS?

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Where would Fury rank if he defeats Joshua twice in impressive fashion?

  1. Greatest of all time

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    9.6%

  2. Top 5 greatest heavyweights of all time

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    15.1%

  3. Top 10 greatest heavyweights of all time

    29 vote(s)
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  4. Top 15-20 greatest heavyweights of all time

    18 vote(s)
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  5. Top 20-30 greatest heavyweights of all time

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  6. Top 30-50 greatest heavyweights of all time

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  7. Outside the top 50 greatest heavyweights of all time

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  1. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! That's a good one!!!

    :roflmao:
     
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  2. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

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    ok then what’s your list of top 10 all time SUPER heavyweights ?
     
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  3. McGrain

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    It'd be very, very interesting.

    It would give Fury three generational type wins over a man ranked as the best in the world (excepting himself) at the time he beat them. That's very, very rare, it doesn't happen often.

    So he'd be lacking, dramatically, in contenders, the modern disease, but doing well for top, top contenders. IMHO there is an argument there for the sub-elite ATGs. That'd be a ranking of 17-3. I think you'd run into trouble on the internets having him at three, but imagining that situation i've not doubt I could defend placing him at 17. None at all.
     
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  4. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The following boxers in their prime are the first 10 that came to mind who would all beat Wilder.

    I'm not saying these are the top 10 all time heavyweights but the fact they would beat Wilder means that Wilder does not belong in a top 10 list:

    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Sonny Liston
    Larry Holmes
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Riddick Bowe
    the Klitschko brothers

    Fury proved that if you can box or present an elusive target or force Wilder onto the back foot then you can put him in serious trouble.
     
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  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I was talking about heavyweights, too.

    :naughty2:
     
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  6. TipNom

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    8-10
     
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  7. African Cobra

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    Because you mentioned the good Senator from General Santos City in the Saragani Province of the Philippines it seemed you were not talking just heavyweights.
     
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  8. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

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    are you dumb or something?

    I said SUPER heavyweights you dunce
     
    Thor Odinson, Jun 14, 2020
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  9. DavidC77

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    OK, if you want to be really specific about stuff then I'll say this much.

    I think Deontay Wilder is the greatest ever 6'7" heavyweight who was born in Tuscaloosa in 1985.
     
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  10. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And in any case, all the fighters I listed weighed the same or more than Wilder at various stages of their career so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
     
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  11. Thor Odinson

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    so long story short you’re an idiot who cannot refute what I said or provide a top 10 SUPER heavyweights of all time list
     
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  12. BELLERS

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    How do you quantify a Super HW ? Just wondering what weight that would be
     
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  13. Thor Odinson

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    would have to be at least 230 pounds and be over 6’5 tall

    being a fat midget doesn’t qualify it’s about body dimensions not just weight
     
    Thor Odinson, Jun 14, 2020
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  14. DavidC77

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    So anyone shorter than 6'5" who would wipe the floor with Wilder doesn't make the top 10 list that Wilder is on...?

    And you say I'm an idiot...
     
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  15. BELLERS

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    Fury would probably rate in the top 25.
    It's so difficult, almost unfair to compare guys 70+ years ago ( probably 6' and weighing similar to today's LH or less ), with today's monsters.
    Marciano, Louis etc, would be far superior skill wise than most of modern HW, but physically would really struggle.
    I know it's a bit of fun, but crossing generations is almost impossible to call.
    Sorry if I'm coming across as Mr Grumpy, even so it's actually an interesting thread !
     
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