James Jeffries vs Deontay Wilder

Simplistic view but see it as is Wilders one punch ko ability enough to stop a tough Jefferies, if yes then Wilder by ko.

If however Jefferies can close the distance and absorb Wilders best punch, i see him having the beating of Wilder.

Who knows what punishment a peak Jefferies could take and still win?

If Jefferies lost i don't think he would use the excuse of his prefight attire exhausting him.

 

Jeffries didn't need 30 fights vs. nobodies to get a title shot. As champion, he beat the best around, not once but twice.

Jeffries floored everyone he fought, save his 1910 comeback fight, where he was old, and had 6 years of ring rust on him. He was never down in any fight, save his comeback and took punches with light 4 -6 ounce gloves.

 

Wilder fought a guy with three fights, for his 8 pro fight, He Ko'd him and the unknown never fought again. Froch would have put for a better effort.

Once Jeffries hits Wilder, the end is near.

 

Only if you're impressed with someone throwing 2 hooks in 10 seconds. They weren't double hooks, not close. A double hook is thrown within the same second. They were all single left hooks

 

Yes, Jeffries beat the best 170/180 pounders around, and outweighed all of them, and spanked them all with his six ounce gloves. (LOL)

Meanwhile, Wilder is giving up 30, 40 even 100+ pounds and stopping everyone but Fury ... who is 6'9" 270 ... and Wilder had him down twice, too.

You never answered: Who in the current Ring Top 10 are knocking out Wilder? Name them all. Give us this huge list of guys who would stop the "can't-punch-his-way-out-of-a-wet-paper-sack" Wilder?

I want to mark your words.

 

Wilder's opponent was no DAN LONG, that's for sure. (LOL)

 

Can you credit a portion of the film he threw 2 left hooks within a seond? Preferably when he wasn't ready to go. Otherwise he's not applying pressure

 

You take it correctly.

I don't doubt the testimony of the people who tasted Wilder's power, but there have been a lot of huge punchers through history, who didn't seem to translate power into stoppage wins against men in the top ten.

Wilder has fought five men ranked in the top ten, and has stopped two of them, both of who were Ortiz.

This makes me reluctant to pick him against all time greats, based upon his power alone.

 

He was the WBC champion. He fought WBC contenders. And he knocked out nine of his 10 title challengers. And a number of those challengers had been ranked in the Ring ratings for years, and just didn't happen to be the rated month Wilder stepped in the ring with them.

So that means he can't punch?

I find this whole thing laughable.

How many guys who Jeffries faced in his entire career were in the Ring Top 10 at the time?

ZERO. NONE. Not a single one.

Because the magazine didn't even exist yet.

Does that mean Jeffries couldn't punch?

Since when does a RING rating matter when judging power? What 'arbitrary' qualification is that?

Wilder's been obliterating challengers for 12 years.

If he signed to fight Usyk or Hrgovic or Dubois or Joyce next, and WASTED them, would that mean nothing because NONE OF THEM are CURRENTLY rated by Ring?

Christ. This board is embarrassing sometimes. Seriously.

 

I saw Wilder's 8th opponent, Jerry Vaughn in an amateur fight. Vaughn is about 6-4, 235, and tough. He fought a guy in the amateur fight I saw that could punch and they both landed bombs on each other. If I remember right, that was in the days of the 4x2 amateur fights and Vaughn lost a close decision that could have gone his way. When Wilder stopped Vaughn so quick was when I first suspected that Wilder might go far as a pro. I don't know anything more about Vaughn than this, but I suspect that the people who trained with and know him were surprised when Wilder knocked him out in one.

 

My point is would you think it meritorious for 8 fight Wilder to gain a draw against Froch?