James Jeffries vs Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by 70sFan865, Jun 15, 2020.


Who would have won?

  1. James J. Jeffries

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  2. Deontay Wilder

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he would fit perfectly to Wilder competition.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder's competition certainly hasn't been anything to shout about, but one thing you can say for it, they were all genuine heavyweights. They weren't older, past prime men coming off of several years inactivity either.
    Has Wilder defended his title against anyone as bad as
    Jack Munroe 7-0-2
    John Finnegan 4-2-4
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    We have a pretty good idea.

    He weighed 222.5Ibs on 25th of August, as reported in The San Francisco Cali on 26th of August
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Did he weigh in or was it a GUESSTIMATE?
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He was weighed and measured.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Okay ,he might well have weighed over 200lbs, after all he was 41 years old!
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Where on earth did you get that age from?
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    My mistake I misread it from CBZ.
    32 and hadn't fought for nearly 3 years.
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Wilder scores 2 knock downs and gets a draw to a man 50 lbs heavier whose also younger and undefeated, gets bashed and criticized.

    Jefferies scored a draw with a man 50 lbs lighter who was older than him and had several losses, gets praised.

    Hmmm, but nobody is being biased here right?
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    And those three lasted a combined three rounds. Your going on Box Rec, which is very incomplete for older records.

    Monroe ( 215 pounds for the fight, ) at the time was an undefeated contender. Jeffries was the only man to stop him. I've seen non contender not only go may rounds with Wilder, but also make him look bad.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Mcvey is a hater on this topic and frequently makes mistakes. Don't take what he says at face value. He's wrong again. Lol 41.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many times have you seen Jeffries fight again?

    How did Jeffries look when he went 9 with Henry Baker? How did Jeffries look when he went the distace with Dan Long, who never won a fight? How did Jeffries look when he went 10 rounds with Bob Armstrong?

    Is this thread still going on?

    A guy who fought 160 and 170 pounders more than 120 years ago, who never faced anyone bigger than him, who only had 20 fights or so and couldn't even win all those, who we only have a couple minutes of film showing him actually winning against anyone ... and even in that footage he doesn't look like much of anything at all ... who was also known for taking bad beatings even in the most rudimentary of eras ...

    Against the biggest puncher in heavyweight history who routinely blew out guys who outweighed him by 20, 30 and 40 pounds?

    Everyone knows what the right answer is. And it ain't Jeffries.

    Time to put the ridiculous hate aside. It's getting embarrassing. Seriously.
     
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  13. janitor

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    Ring Magazine top ten only.

    That is all that we would have for somebody like Louis or Marciano.
     
  14. janitor

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    There seem to have been a lot of heavyweights who obviously hit like a truck, but can't put away top ten guys.

    Look at guys like Williams or Bruno for example.

    The question for me with Wilder, was not can he hit hard, but is he another Williams or Bruno.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Name all the guys who were rated by Ring when Jeffries faced them?

    Using your own criteria, I think Wilder stopped more.
     
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