James Jeffries vs Deontay Wilder

Beating smaller older mean who are the best of their era, counts for a lot more than beating bigger younger men who were not.

If you rate somebody's resume on size/age of opposition, then Audley Harrison looks pretty good!

 

Wilders defences certainly were poor quality wise, but are they really worse than Jeffries?

Corbett1. 33 years old ,retired for a year and a half.
Corbett2. Nearly 37 years old, been retired for 3 years.
Fitzsimmons 2. 39 years old, been retired for 2 years.
Finnegan record 4-2-4 ko'd in last fight.
Munroe record 7-0-2.

It's a pretty even match up.
A limited all time puncher who avoided the best around,versus a heavy who made his rep beating up older smaller and several cases men coming out of extended retirement eg Jackson,Fitzsimmons, Corbett,and 40 years old Goddard.

Other best wins Sharkey 187lbs five feet 8 inches tall, 2 close fights for a total of 45 rds.
Ruhilin199lbs,6'2" the only man of class with any pretensions of being the size of a modern heavyweight,Jeffries beat.
He had been half killed by Fitzsimmons ,and seems to have had a panic attack as soon as Jeffries landed solidly to the body ,pulled out between rounds.

 

There I would have to disagree.

Jeffries had the best title reign before Joe Louis, which takes us up to the 1950s.

As others have pointed out, Wilder is far from being a standout of his era, and his title reign is terrible.

We are not comparing like for like between eras, or even nearly like for like.

 

Yes, unequivocally.

Jeffries challengers were the best available give or take the odd name.

Wilder's challengers were barely the B team of the era!

 

Atrocious resume compared to whom? (LOL)

The mandatory contender who just fought Chazz Witherspoon (who Arreola knocked out).

The mandatory contender who just fought Rydell Booker?

The top contenders who fought Shawdell Winters and drew with Bounty Hunter last time out?

Tyson Fury was the undefeated Lineal champ when Wilder defended against him the first time. Fury was the Lineal champ and rated #1 by Ring when Wilder faced him the second time. And he's rated the Lineal/RING/World champ now that Wilder is fighting him a third time.

None of the other contenders (and Joshua) have ever beaten, floored or even drew with a Ring champion.

As I said in another thread to another guy, catch up.

If you're still whining about guys Wilder fought five years ago, open your eyes. It's not 2015 anymore. Wilder's fighting better comp than all of them, and he has been for the last three years.

 

And Wilder's were the best available, give or take. Tyson Fury is hardly the B Team of this era.

Have you figured out if Wilder is better than Cleveland WIlliams yet? (LOL) 10 successful heavyweight title defenses didn't do it? Knocking out everyone he's faced but Fury didn't?

Does Wilder need to get knocked out by a light heavyweight, like Williams did, to help you make a comparison?

 

I'm out. Jesus.

Did you ever hear of Jack Johnson? I think Jim Jeffries did. (LOL) Black guy. Gold tooth. Lots of white girlfriends? Beat Jeffries to a bloody pulp?

Not ringing a bell?

Gotta go.

 

He didn't beat Fury.

I have figured it out.

I have Wilder as being slightly better at the moment!

 

He fought mostly lheavies and small cruisers.How many class men did he face of 190lbs or over ?

 

What about the fact that they were coming out of extended retirement?