Luis Ortiz v Tom Sharkey 20 rounds

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Luis Ortiz v Tom Sharkey

  1. Sharkey by Dec

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    4.8%

  2. Sharkey by KO

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    19.0%

  3. Ortiz by Dec

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    9.5%

  4. Ortiz by KO

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    66.7%
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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Simple question. Pick the outcome.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like to see more from Tom, but he seemed to be excellent fighter. Short but powerful build, strong punch and tons of courage. A shame that we can't see his wars against Jeffries or his destruction of Corbett.
     
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  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sharkey
     
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  4. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz has decent fundamentals. I think he’s got enough fire power and accuracy to keep Sharkey honest and take a decision.
     
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  5. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair considering it’s 20 rounds I might have to re think this, assumed it was a 15 rounder.
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sharkey was a walk forward midget with almost no boxing skill (this according to his contemporaries). He supposedly slightly improved his game by Jeffries 2 but that is relative to the heavyweight goof-troopers of the day and even then the press was lukewarm on his improvement. I don't care if this was scheduled for 100 rounds. Sharkey is going to be gone before the 3rd gong strikes.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen the same reports about Marciano for example and I'd never call him that way. Someone you described would never be top tier contender and would never go 40 rounds against Jeffries.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Or perhaps a counter narrative is true... Jeffries wasn't all that good and a wharfbrawler like Sharkey, the meager likes of whom hasn't the ring hasnt seen in 50 years, was able to make a name in those paltry years for the division.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Or maybe it’s all relative.
    Mayweather Sr and Teddy Atlas paint Wilder as a god awful boxer. But compared to the average competitor, he’s a good boxer.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wilder has overwhelming physicality. Seriously, should we run this poll back with Tom versus Deontay?
     
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  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Don’t miss the point.
    Contemporary negative critiques about world class fighters are often exaggerated.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Dear The Seamus,

    I picked Tom to starch Ortiz
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Dear The Seamus

    :nonono:nonono:nonono
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Dear The Seamus,

    In my humble opinion, the heavyweight division of the 1890s was as good as the heavyweight division of the 1990s. The guys in the 1890s had more grit, determination and resolve. That is why Tom wins this.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jun 20, 2020
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, we can assume that whole era sucked back then. I don't think it's reasonable though.

    Sharkey also troubled Fitzsimmons, almost knocking him out in first round. Now Fitzsimmons also wasn't that good?
     
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