ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Tommy Hearns or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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ATG: Who Ranks Higher?

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  1. Tommy "Hitman" Hearns

    48 vote(s)
    57.8%
  2. Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr

    35 vote(s)
    42.2%
  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Lmfao why? Pac has horrible losses torrercampo ajd horn lost to pbf h2h never beat jmm clearly in 4 fights getting put in a coma by jmm lost to Bradley. If you rate hearns greater than pbf then you have to rate pbf over pac. Pac never beat anyone as good as canelo and there's not anyone on pacs resume that pbf doesn't beat.
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    THIS. This is quite possibly the most perfect statement I have ever read on this forum.
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Lol that came out wrong on my part..I meant to write I personally dont rate Pac higher than Hearns either. My fault for not double checking
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd.

    This forum is strange at times. Floyd gets endless **** for beating bigger men past their best, Hearns gets endless credit for beating smaller men past their best (fantastic KO of Duran, though).
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You said that his wins alone at 155 and below were better than any of Hill’s wins.

    The reason you have said that is because you’re not familiar with Virgil Hill’s career.

    Everybody reading the thread can clearly see that.

    Virgil Hill beat Fabrice Tiozzo in France.

    When he was past his best, he then went to Germany and beat an excellent fighter in Henry Maske. Maske was a very talented southpaw.

    When he was faded, he then moved up to CW and fought Tiozzo again, where he knocked him out in a round.

    Canelo’s wins which you have listed simply don’t compare to those.

    You’ve made a silly statement due to your lack of knowledge.
     
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  6. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    There’s an awful lot of factors to consider when ranking fighters.

    It’s actually quite difficult.

    Floyd deserves huge credit.

    He was great and he was unbeaten.

    Every fighter can be beat by the right style though.

    Even lesser fighters can expose a weakness.

    Tommy fought everyone.

    Floyd never fought a peak version of Ray Leonard or a monster like Marvin Hagler.

    If Floyd had fought guys of that calibre, he may not have retired undefeated.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I personally rank Floyd Mayweather higher
     
  9. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The whole point is that his resume has better fighters on it than Floyd's resume has, and better than Floyd. Do we really know how good Floyd is? Floyd was a defensive master and a great tactician who could work defense and offense, but he always had the advantage in who he fought. Age and timing. etc. He never fought a Hearns caliber fighter. Not like that, and Hearns fought Floyd caliber.
     
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Go and find a thread that you’re knowledgeable on.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Austin Trout?

    Have a day off.

    Beating Lara isn’t on a par with beating Henry Maske.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd obviously made the fight at 152 in the hope of draining him.
     
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  13. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    He actually wanted him down to 147 according to the Canelo camp... It was another BS CW fight for Floyd... He had no problem dragging JMM up Basically 3 weight classes and then cut him a check because May didnt bother making the weight. It was a complete joke ...
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes.

    Here we are comparing him to a guy who fought Marvin Hagler.
     
  15. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    And Prime Ray Leonard... And Ray made Tommy wait 8 years for the rematch. and Hearns handed him his ass flooring him twice!!