ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Tommy Hearns or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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ATG: Who Ranks Higher?

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  1. Tommy "Hitman" Hearns

    48 vote(s)
    57.8%
  2. Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr

    35 vote(s)
    42.2%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Duran’s record and standing pfp during the period a little bit before and little bit after the Hearns fight were inferior to Pac.

    Floyd was also 38 years old whereas Hearns was prime and fighting with a massive size advantage over Duran.

    These two aren’t the same.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This actually proves my point all along lol.

    I have Floyd detractors arguing against me and Floyd fans arguing against me. I both using the exact opposite arguments.

    As I said, I only look at what they did and judge from there.
     
  3. Webbiano

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    I think Floyd has a legitimate claim for top 20 p4p all time, whether you choose to rank him there is entirely up to you. Hearns despite being braver, on the other hand doesn’t imo
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’m not really arguing as much as I am stating facts.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That's literally what the other group have said to me also.

    Everyone only ever states facts.

    Its why when i take a neutral stance both groups of fans will argue their point against me.

    The best thing is usually someone is fan of a boxer criticised for the exact thing they criticise others for.

    I'm not really a fan of either of these, for me the hitman was always Hatton.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I didn’t say I was a fan of Floyd. I will say I am a fan of Hearns and he does not have a long history of domestic violence that I am aware of.

    His resume is objectively worse than Floyd’s. Manny cuts it close with Floyd. Hearns doesn’t. The top 20 wins comparison shows that Hearns isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    I put Corrales at the 1 or 2 spot and Guerrero at 16. But Guerrero was a multi division champ, was on pfp lists, and may have been able to beat Corrales at 135. Hearns’ depth of resume is nothing close.
     
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  7. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the wake of all these facts, here's some pure opinions:

    FMJ vs Pacquiao was the one of the most expensive letdowns in boxing history.

    The match-up went from being potentially one of the most exciting contests, between two of the most exemplary performers in the sport in years (2010), to being a tedious itch that, nonetheless, kept asking to be scratched, lest a shedload of money not be made (2015).

    Dull as ditchwater.
     
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  8. surfinghb1

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    In 2010, It was up there with one of the best fights in History.. I believe both of them switched of P4P best fighters of the year for 5 straight years. #1 and #2 ... In 2015, I did not even pay for the fight because I already knew the outcome ... And yes I was still very bitter they waited 5 years ... It's like whats the point? ..... oh ya money !!
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    They were pfp 1 and 2 when they fought.
     
  10. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    LOL !!! You missed the point
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I think it always would've been dull. The writing was on the wall with the Marquez fights. Floyd easily handled Marquez at his own game whereas Marquez got the best of Manny. Like many issues involving Floyd, fans want soemthing detrimental to happen to him but it never went down that way.

    I had far more doubts about who would win the Canelo, Ortiz, Guererro, and Mosely fights.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    If Floyd beat Manny 9-3 in a dull fight in 2010, I doubt you would be pleased or hold it in extremely high regard.
     
  13. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    Absolutely I would !!! be we all know already that Manny wasn't a dull fighter in 2010 ... Unless your point is , he was the same fighter in 2015 as he was in 2010
     
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you mean Floyd easily handled a physically overmatched, fat, flat-footed featherweight, who he couldn't be bothered to make the weight for.

    Or is that what you mean by him handling Marquez at his own game? That is, not bothering to work the pounds off?

    If you based your forecast on the form from that bout, I never want a betting tip from you.
     
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  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. He thinks their common opponent in Marquez is central to the form guide.