Jersey Joe Walcott vs Archie Moore

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, I said "not the greatest" because his chin isn't as good as, say, Harry Greb or Jake LaMotta. I view his chin as certainly strong, as most of his KO loses are not in his prime.

    Walcott's chin is certainly worse in my opinion.
     
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  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not at HW oddly. Moore thought fighting at hw was easier because they were so slow. And it showed. Moore has the better wins overall but Walcott has the better performances against the big guys. Both pretty close and both capable of putting up a great performance or a stinker. My gut tells me Walcott takes it but wouldn’t be surprised if Archie KOs him
     
  3. mattdonnellon

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    Did Mcvey get knocked out? :coleman:
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

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    If he could take Ninos power he could prob take Walcott’s. Although Walcott generally knocked you out w the shot u didn’t see. Either way I think the fight ends in a KO. One of them isn’t making it
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Watch Moore vs Cleveland Williams
     
  6. mcvey

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    Neither looked like straight rights to me and the Marciano one definitely wasn't.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I don't think Valdes hit as hard as Walcott.
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

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    Yeah Walcott prob hit slightly harder.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

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    Then show me one KO straight right of Walcott.
     
  10. Reinhardt

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    I'll take Walcott by a decision , I think he'd drop Moore but not stop him,,, it's a real good matchup
     
  11. mcvey

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    Show me were I said Walcott had a better straight right than Moore?
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    Oh, you meant right cross. Moore had better right cross anyway.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    From 1945 to 1961 Archie Moore beat every one he fought except Charles, Marciano and Patterson. 3 HW champions.

    In that time span he fought a ridiculous amount of top level fighters, that ridiculous I don't have the patience right now to list them all.

    From 1935 to 1945 he had a great run as a MW, but was never able to beat Yarosz, Wade, Booker or Burley. He was, however able to secure a reputation as an excellent fighter.

    From 1944 to 1954 Walcott was able to beat everyone he fought aside from Louis, Layne and Marciano. The during this time he fought a high number of ranked HW fighters and secured the HW championship.

    From 1930 to 1940 he would often show glimpses of excellence but was by and large a journey man.

    Despite these two having a reputation for being inconsistent, it isn't really the case imo. During their best runs they both were quite consistent against world class fighters.

    That being said, Moore lost to the best HW guys he fought, and i think he'd do the same again here.

    Almsot certainly by knockout.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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  15. Jackomano

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    Morrow actually was a good fighter and packed a mean and fast punch with either hand. However, he was also very inexperienced so seasoned vets like Moore and Bivins made the mistake of underestimating him.

    I’ve never had the pleasure of seeing the fight even though I know there is footage of it, since both Mike and Gene Lebell were big fans of Archie Moore and have a lot of footage of him from the 40’s and mentioned having footage of the fight . Also, Mike Lebell was at the fight and talked about Morrow catching Moore slipping and not letting him recover.

    In the rematch Moore pretty much ruined Morrow as a fighter.