Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

Oh you missed it. I was using McVey's data and clearly said so. The guys full of mistakes, I just had some fun with it. I know Tyson is Holyfield 1st or 2nd best win. Up to speed now?

As for Moorer he cleanly beat Holyfield. One bad judge can produce ANY SD. 116-112 was the best card. The 114-114 was BS

• Moorer opened a cut over Holyfield's left eye in round five.
• Moorer landed 262 of 558 punches (47%) and Holyfield landed 159 of 529 (30%).

On Donald he was 37 for Holyfield, 35 and in shape for Vitali. Vastly different results was my point.

On Toney, he was 35, Holyfield was 40. Vitali doesn't need to use the he was too old card. He would have beaten Toney easily at age 40.

Holyfield fans play the he was past his best card often dating back to Lewis, who he was lucky to draw with. Of course there are some fan here who actually think Holyfield beat Lewis is the re-match, are you one of them?

I'm the one using the most facts and data here. No one says what I type is inaccurate outside of a mistake maybe one every 5 months, which is you pst enough happens.

 

Many greats fought and won with injuries , its part of what made them great.

If Vitali felt injured against Holyfield , its highly likely he'd tap out on his stool again. He'd avoid an immediate rematch too. I can say that with confidence because its exactly what he done with Byrd.. Ran a rematch against a blow up light heavy who won the first fight on a weeks notice.. lol
Get over your hate for guys like Holyfield.. He's the more proven fighter here and is clearly the more skilled.

 

Which ones Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Jack Johnson, Ezzard Charles, Harry WIlls, ect...Your ignorance is showing once again. The hall of fame is FULL of people who quit in a boxing match and most of them didn't have an injury as bad as Vitali did, nor were the fighting with n injury for as long, way ahead on the scorecards.

Learn anything yet? I don't hate Holy, I was for him in many fights, including Lewis and Tyson. I just objectively point out that his body went through a transformation, he was in PED's as a pro, lost a bit too much, and struggled in other matches he won, and finally fought a little dirty by using his head. If you disagree with anything in this paragraph, speak up! Otherwise you agree with me on these facts.

You can say Holyfield had more skills or was better in a pound for pound sense. Vitali was much bigger stronger, and more active and IMO would have beaten on him the same way Bowe did had they meet in the early to late 2000's.

 

Are you for real ????????
Who the **** are the 12 in front of him ???????
You can probably make a case for around 5 or 6 boxers to be better than him prime vs prime, but no more than that.

 

Are you referring to the time he quit against Joey Maxim from chronic heat exhaustion? Go watch that fight. It was at 175. Robinson started at 147.
He leathered Maxim before completely collapsing. It was so hot , they had to replace the referee. Robinson probably felt like he had nothing left to give a few round earlier , but he fought on anyway until he blew a gasket.

Comparing Vitali's pitiful quit job to a guy half his size to that fight is exactly why no one around here takes you seriously.

 

Vitaly is top 10

 

Vitali wasn't any better than Tony Tucker , in fact Tucker had the better fundamentals and at his best would probably beat Vitali. He beat Buster who had a better jab than Vitali

 

That was against Joey Maxim, not Turpin.

 

Keep it up Dino, I enjoy burying you with facts. At best you know half as much as I do, but you10X the hater I'll every be. You been Anti Klitschko for decades here. It's a running joke.

Quitting has nothing to do with size. I do hope you are learning something. By the way Holyfield himself QUIT in a fight, are you aware of that? Probably not, but its 100% true.

 

I've always said Tucker was a great boxer and he's been given unfair treatment on this forum cause many underrate him.
But having better fundamentals does not guarantee a win.
Ali had the worst fundamentals, yet look at what he achieved.

 

He even got the opponents mixed up. Suga Man lost to Joey Maxim due to heat exhaustion, not to Turpin.

 

Hmmm let me see.

1 ) He has the best rounds won to round lost ratio in the history of boxing among champions.
2 ) He was never floored by a punch.
3 ) He has one of the highest KO% in division history
4 ) He came back 4 years out of the ring in his late 30's and went on to dominate.
5 ) He also made the hall of fame on his first try, and had the most votes in the class.

Sounds pretty good to me.

 

Well Sugar Randy kinda of sounds good

 

Well , quitting against Byrd and losing to fat Lewis are the two defining moments of Vitalis career. Thats what he's known for.

Yes , Duran quit against Leonard. So what. He redeemed himself , Vitai didn't.. Vitali wouldn't even use his rematch clause to attempt to overturn the result.
Whatever dislike I have for Wlad Klitschko pales in comparison to your sick hatred of Jack Johnson. Throw Wilder into the mix too of guys you loathe. .

 

LOL Dinohelmet in full cry!

Come see the spectacle!