the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you on O'Grady. He was from Oklahoma, which was where the entire O'Grady clan was based out of, but I didn't question it like you did because I thought I missed something at the beginning of the telecast that might say something like they had relocated or something. I should have questioned it. I'm pretty sure I heard something during the fight about Redd Foxx. I recall him also managing Freddie Gonzalez and Fred 'Young Sanford' Houpe. But I think Price was managed by a Hollywood conglomerate of Burt Reynolds, Ryan O'Neal and such. But I know what you mean about Gonzo should have been right there amidst that 135 group with some good paydays. Don't know what happened.
     
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  2. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't he also lose to Bogner not long after this?
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just looked at Boxrec. My guess is burnout happened. Look at how many fights he had in '81.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I want to say that was a couple of years later. I could be wrong.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You may be right on Price — Reynolds, Lee Majors and Marvin Gaye were part of a syndicate that managed him (O’Neal would make sense, too). Not sure Foxx was in on that but for some reason I vaguely remember him being associated ... but I could have the Hawk confused with another fighter.
     
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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow! Never thought he would have lost to Bogner.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Did you forget your password or something?
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    So annoying. Fortunately I have the power to rescue it!
     
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    Gary Russell UD12 Joe Diaz

    Gary Russell takes on the longer, taller, undefeated Joe Diaz in the third defence of his strap but the first one that mattered to me, certainly. Russell comes in wearing an absolutely mad looking Pharaoh outfit he looks mental. It's just a really cheap looking headdress. You'd think there never was a Mike Tyson, the way people behave. He doesn't even take it off during his intro, either. Just walks about with it on like a mostly harmless day-release mental patient. He takes it off for the stare down at least. Christ.

    Starts the fight well though - he is southpaw jabbing out the box, hard, slithgly up, fast, Diaz's slight reach advantage is for nought. Russell a fast man. Diaz, who is also a southpaw, lands the best punch of the round, a right hand to the body, but it's not enough. Wow, even more bizarre, that mask, I forgot about that mask - they have a mask they put on Russell between rounds, presumably for cooling the face and preventing swelling. Russell opens up in the second and he is oh-my-goodness type fast - faster than everyone inrecent divisional history but you-know-who i'll bet. Lands some hard straight punches too, but Diaz is not for going away and he makes his way into the pocket as Russell cools off and lands that body shot again, few punches upstairs. Very, very good second- great second round. Diaz wins the round on bodyshots. He lands plenty. Very good body punching.

    The third round is, if anything, better, they both hit each other hard and often. Russell shows more variety, more up and down, probably slightly outlands his man but this is close, good fighting aside from some shortfalls in defence. Diaz probably evens it up in the fourth though, landing that prestigious right hook to the body. Russell outthrew him but a lot of his stuff was landing on the gloves I think. Diaz is a very rugged man for a baby-faced kid. He is just walking Russell down and down and that's the fight now, they're not taking turns or anything, it's Diaz pressure and power versus Russell's handspeed and feet. Diaz is bossing things when the close, Russell probably still nicking it at distance. But I have Diaz in a three-two lead after a close fifth punctuated by a double right-hook on the bell. Close fight, borderline great fight, close rounds.

    What Russell has done in the sixth and seventh is tried to exact a big toll on Diaz for getting in. He knows what he's going to get when Diaz gets there and has stoically accepted it. Hard to just accept getting murdered to the body like that. Russell is using all his speed to look flashy, to land, while Diaz is coming in. I love both these guys man, this is just great stuff. Big eighth coming up. It's so often a key round. Russell round. He's got over the hill with that round. His attack rather than evade strategy has discouraged Diaz a bit and it's made Russell's life much, much easier. I'm not sure of the corner advice Russell has got - he's to keep the centre of the ring. Not sure about that. He's had success with landing combinations on the way back. He does kind of take that advice a bit in the first minute and it just keeps him very active, no bad thing maybe, but he does give way to the ropes again. Diaz is passive now. He's been placed under control by the counters to his pressure. It should be plain sailing now. First half was thrilling second half seems about to speak for Russell, loud and clear. I like the way he varies his levels; fights out of a crouch sometimes, maybe holds his hands high. It's nice.

    Diaz actually stages a thrilling comeback in the tenth and eleventh. Russell had decided in the eleventh I think that the time had come to outfight his man, but he has to return to his original strategy after being fought to a standstill. Great round, great fight. Twelfth round, crazy.

    RUSSELL:1,3,6,7,8,9,11.
    DIAZ:2,4,5,10,12.

    115-113

    Official: 117-111x2, 115-113.
     
  10. Jel

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    Floyd Patterson v Jerry Quarry 1

    Watched this when I was tired last night so not that confident in my scoring. Tough to score and I had half the rounds as close - 3 to Patterson, 2 to Quarry.

    Good fight and Patterson did well to survive the second and come back strong. The KD of Quarry in the 7th was a surprise as he was winning the round and looking comfortable.

    I didn't have a major quibble with the draw.

    1 9-10 (close)
    2 7-10 (Patterson down twice and lucky to survive)
    3 10-9 (good recovery from Patterson)
    4 9-10 (close)
    5 10-9
    6 10-9 (close)
    7 10-8 (Quarry winning the round before the KD)
    8 10-10 (cracking round)
    9 10-9 (close)
    10 10-9 (close)

    Patterson 95-93 Quarry
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    I love watching old Patterson box his way to victory against everyone not called Ali.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I love all things Patterson. :sisi1
     
  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My scores on Patterson v Quarry I & II scored under California rules of 1 point for a round, 2 points if a knockdown is involved and no points for an even round.

    Patterson-Quarry I

    Round 1: Even-no points
    Round 2: Quarry (2 knockdowns) 3 points
    Round 3: Patterson
    Round 4: Patterson
    Round 5: Patterson
    Round 6: Even
    Round 7: Patterson (1 knockdown) 2 points
    Round 8: Patterson
    Round 9: Quarry
    Round 10: Quarry

    Patterson 6-5

    Patterson-Quarry II

    Round 1: Patterson
    Round 2: Quarry (1 knockdown) 2 points
    Round 3: Quarry
    Round 4: Quarry (1 knockdown) 2 points
    Round 5: Even
    Round 6: Quarry
    Round 7: Even
    Round 8: Patterson
    Round 9: Patterson
    Round 10: Patterson
    Round 11: Quarry
    Round 12: Patterson

    Quarry 7-5
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    Has anyone done Gerrie Coetzee-Pinklon Thomas? Thinking about looking at that one this week. Interesting scrap.
     
  15. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pat, I scored this one not too long ago and here is how I had it:

    Round 1: Even
    Round 2: Coetzee
    Round 3: Coetzee
    Round 4: Thomas
    Round 5: Coetzee
    Round 6: Coetzee
    Round 7: Coetzee
    Round 8: Thomas
    Round 9: Thomas
    Round 10: Even

    Total: 5-3-2 Coetzee (actual scores: 5-5, 4-4-2 and 5-4-1 for Coetzee for a majority Draw)

    When I saw it I felt Thomas waited too long to get into the fight. Let me know your thoughts on it when you review.