Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

Peters was past prime and Corrie was washed up and inactive.

The win over Peters is the same as Bermane Stivernes win over Chris Arroela. The Sanders win is like Lucas Brownes win over Ruslan Chagaev.

Not very impressive when you put it into perspective like that.

No ,thats not true. Wlad dominated that era. Two guys can't dominate the same era.

 

Vitali was 37 vs a 28 year old here. Had Holyfield been in the ring with the same Peter at the same age, excuses would be many! We both know that.

Remember Mod, Peter was ranked #1 at this time, and had beaten James Toney earlier, you know the blown up middle weight who knocked Holyfield out at a pudgy 217 pounds? Do you still want to talk about Peter? He threw 385 punches in this fight, but only landed 73, a 19% connect rate. Might that show Vitali was hard to hit?

The fight between Vitali vs Peter was one sided, and he beat Peter better than Wlad did which made it impressive. Peter did not win a round. He was rocked at hurt as early as round one.

 

Thats a falsity. Tell the truth please.

 

Dino,

Peter past his prime at age 28? Sanders inactive, coming off his career best win? YKSAB. If you want to dispute any point I make, reply to them and we can debate them. I say you can't and won't. All you do is go off tangent on some points which are often wrong.

As said before I like you as an ignorant and often wrong hater.

 

Was it #2? Okay my bad. I assumed Wlad was Ring Magazine Champion by that point. Wlad beat Chagaev 9 months after to become Ring Magazine Champion. Had Peter vs Vital not happened, Peter would very likely be #1 ranked. Doesn't really matter, my point is Peter was highly ranked when they fought. You can not dispute that. Nice try.

Ring Magazine Annual rankings, reported April 2008

1. [url]Wladimir Klitschko[/url]
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3. [url]Oleg Maskaev[/url]
4. [url]Ruslan Chagaev[/url]
5. [url]Nikolay Valuev[/url]
6. [url]Sultan Ibragimov[/url]
7. [url]Serguei Lyakhovich[/url]
8. [url]Vladimir Virchis[/url]
9. [url]Tony Thompson[/url]
10. [url]Alexander Pov[/url]

 

Avoid name calling and stay on topic please.

Yes Peters was finished. Many have said the first Wlad fight took his prime away.. Peters also wasn't a dedicated athlete and came to fight unconditioned a lot of times - a sure-fire way to speed up your demise.

When he fought Vitali , he could barely move from one side of the ring to the other.
He would lose to Chambers one fight after. Age doesn't = prime. Bowe was also past prime at the same age. Peter may have been older as well , he certainly looked it.

Sanders was out of the ring for a year. He turned up grossly out of shape. Vitali best two wins are past prime non-greats . These are the facts

 

Finished and #2 Ring Ranked overall? Dino, you're a funny guy! Who said Peter was past his prime before this fight? Names please. This isn't a slip up between #1 and #2, I think it's a very bogus. As we know you picked the wrong guy to win this fight ( As you did in most Klitschko fights ), so you didn't think he was finished. You're completely busted.

Sanders I'm pretty sure was Ranked #3 overall at the time Vitali beat him.

 

Bermane Stiverne was RING RANKED #2 when Wilder beat him.. You have constantly shatted on that win so it is you that is busted...Peter being #2 doesn't prove he was still prime.
He got the that sport by beating another past prime guy.

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We can also use our eyes..Falling off balance from throwing jab... Moving in slow motion. He looks drunk! If that guy was still prime , then that would make him one of the worst title holders in the history of boxing , across all weight divisions..
He was done.

 

Peter was washed up and most thought midlleweight Toney outboxed him.Even little known Eddie Chambers soundly outboxed him.His not a great win by no means.

Sanders.Old, inactive and fat by the time VITALI fought him.Sanders got the one fluke win over Wlad , that is it.He got no other good wins.Lost by KO against the other top opponent in Rahman.The win over Douglas is certainly better for Holyfield.

 

Holyfield having the better wins doesn't mean he's the better heavyweight. Bowe being better than Vitali certainly isn't a given when we remember the Golota and Tubbs fights.

Vitali is certainly more consistent with his jab than Bowe was and has better stamina. Bowe is a better in fighter. Vitali I think is the much superior outboxer compared to Bowe. This makes

Vitali faired better than Holyfield with Lennox barring the cut. Although Lennox was older and Holyfield a little past his best

The fight boils down to if Holyfield can slip Vitali's jab to get his own punches off at mid range. Holyfield is technically better and quicker and better inside. But Vitali has all that reach, the jab, the height and weight advantages.

I can't say how it'd go because I don't think Vitali has fought anyone close to Holyfield. I favour Vitali because he fights long with his jab, uses his footwork to dictate distance. But who knows, maybe Holyfield slips the jab and gets the better inside. We can't predict modern fights very often, we're likely to have less success over fights that are a generation or more apart.

 

Evander by decision. But a SD

 

Holyfield tko. Prime Holyfield was just too fast too busy and too tough. Very difficult match up for a fighter like vitali who does not have alot of dimensions to his game

 

I really like prime Holyfield in this one too, for the exact same reasons.

 

Vitali's jab was technically flawed and it was never proven against guys with good footwork and head movement. Because he was so tall and he shot it upwards from the hip , it was a nightmare for small plodders like Peters and Arroela.
But slow footed Lewis walked Vitali down with relative ease , he didn't struggle that badly to get close because of his of own jab and size. If Vitali turned over a proper jab rather than bringing up a fully extended arm , he may have been able to keep Lewis at bay.

The jab Vitali threw was similar to the jab Jorge Louis Golzalez threw. Bowe destroyed that guy from the outside.

Bowe in his prime threw a far better jab than Vitali

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You're not convincing me Bowe can put up the challege Vitali would. Bowe was a lazy, ignorant, overweight, stupid bum. Vitali was a perfectionist in comparison.