the big taboo...is tyson fury OVERATED

All of those fighters have a 1/20 chance to beat him, so yeah it could happen. Still, people aren't wrong to tell you that none of the listed fighters could beat Fury at this point. Povetkin and Pulev are too old. Ruiz is too fat and his career may be over. Whyte just isn't as good as people want him to be. It would be interesting to see him fight Fury on the inside, but Fury could just keep it long and hold his ground on the inside.

 

I think Fury is one of those guys that could give anybody hell and win on the right night, when he gets his act together. The guy has serious size and talent.

Then we get fights like Pianeta and Wallin, where he looks very beatable by any top-line prizefighter.

Tyson Fury's biggest enemy is himself - keeping himself focused and on the tracks. I hope for his sake he keeps it together.

 

Fury is one of the rare big guys who actually knows how to utilize his natural advantages. Not only that, he knows that he can do it and that it´s a must.

Like, people give **** to Wlad for loosing to bums. But they also give him **** for having a size advantage. Well he clearly wasn´t fully utilizing it before when he got KO´d by nobodies.

Fury is a clever mother****er but I think he is still overrated. Then again, his opposition has been limited. He fought Wilder, who had major technical errors, but was dangerous none the less. Then there is Wladimir. Who will likely go down as one of heavyweights greats.
... and then there is Chisora?

My gut says that Fury could probably keep learning and beating top guys, if he fights them. But at the moment, i think he is highly overrated.

 

THIS.

 

Yes he is VERY overrated and no, he has not beaten ANY of the top heavyweights right now. I honestly cannot believe how many people have fallen for his act. A steroid cheat who blamed it all of depression, drugs, alcohol and mental illness hahah . And people bought it. They haven't brought up the nandrolone since. Everything he did or will do since then should be in question, especially when he came into the Wilder fight at 273 and power all of a sudden. But fight fans have fallen into the same trap they did with Wilder, saying that Fury "would" beat any of the other heavyweights instead of making him fight them to prove he can beat them. I think Whyte is a nightmare match up with him and that's the real reason Fury doesn't want to fight him. And you cannot convince me that Fury is unbeatable when he went 12 rounds with Wallin in a fight he could have easily lost on cuts. Wallin is rated 83rd in the world right now hahahaha

 

Bump this in 12 months time

Dummies

Fury is the GOAT you just don't know it yet.

Whyte, AJ and Wilder are getting taken out, with ease. People will be crying at ringside watching the beating Whyte is going to take.

Povetkin, Pulev & Ortiz are retirement jobs. They have no place in boxing anymore. Stop mentioning their names.

AJ will be made to look like an amateur like Wilder.

 

Wilder can't be considered a great win unless you consider him a great fighter.

I think fury easily beats any other heavyweight in the world right now but there's no one out there besides Joshua that would validate any talk of greatness and unfortunately Ruiz got to him first

 

Of course he is. People genuinely seem to believe he's shifted the paradigm in a sport that's been going on for hundreds of years.

 

Find me a 6'8" 270 pound man in history who can move like Fury over 12 rounds

You can't

He is the first of his kind as a super heavyweight.

And just that little bit of ability to move, feint and stamina puts him well well ahead of his competition.

 

You're correct. There hasn't been someone that tall and that heavy that can box and move like him.

Unfortunately that doesn't mean a whole lot, because there have been many that are just a few inches shorter (although most are quite a bit lighter considering they don't have man boobs) that box way better. I don't think his height gives him the advantage over far more skilled fighters. His weight is only a disadvantage.

That said, he might well be the best current Heavyweight. Probably is, in fact.

 

Fury's won three fights (Wilder 1, Wilder 2 and Wlad) where he's been an underdog with the bookmakers.

When you look at AJ, Whyte and Wlad's best wins, they've all been favourites/evens.

 

Hmmm.... yeah and no. He is probably slightly overrated currently. As you say there are a number of guys he hasn’t fought yet and it’s the HW division so anything can happen. But on the other hand I don’t see anyone currently beating him, I’d say him getting caught by AJ or a lucky punch from Wilder in the third fight would be his most likely undoing but they both seem pretty unlikely so nah maybe he’s not so overrated. Haha fence sitting 101.

 

Is Larry Holmes a great fighter to you? Holmes never beat a great fighter in his prime.

 

Fury is very good, no doubting that. But some people go way over the top, calling him the GOAT and saying in every fantasy match up he wins comfortably.


I think people just forget Otto Wallin, John McDermott I (which he clearly lost), Steve Cunningham and other very average or poor performances.

Wilder as hard as he punches (and he punches ridiculously hard) has always been slaughtered for being technically poor, Fury fans constantly hammered Wilder for his lack ability but as soon as Fury beats him pretend Wilder was some kind of cross between Foreman and Ali.

Look, Wilder II was a superb performance, I really enjoyed and appreciated it even though I picked Wilder to win, but Wilder was/is very average with special power.


Wladimir was a very good win away from home, but watch the fight, sit through those 12 rounds and tell me it was a good fight, you can't, it was a pigdog of a fight. An absolute PIGDOG.

That RBr is the funniest thing I've ever read on here, the posts are hilarious, both men were absolutely slaughtered by the all posters, Wladimir and Fury fans went in on both of them. It wasn't good.


If Fury goes on to beat Wilder again, AJ twice, maybe a couple of others like Ruiz (if he gets himself together), His mandatory Whyte and finishes his career unbeaten then sure there an argument that he was/is rather special.


Until then, he is a very good Heavyweight, not a GOAT, not a Living Legend, he is just a very good Heavyweight in an era that isn't that special.