Expert opinions on Marciano VS Liston

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by swagdelfadeel, Dec 9, 2017.


Liston VS Marciano

  1. Liston by KO

  2. Liston by TKO

  3. Liston by UD

  4. Liston by MD/SD

  5. Draw

  6. Marciano by KO

  7. Marciano by TKO

  8. Marciano by UD

  9. Marciano by MD/SD

  10. No contest

Results are only viewable after voting.
Page 16 of 50
  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    18,692
    19,826
    Jul 30, 2014
    One of the dumbest posts I've ever seen.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    #226
    lufcrazy, Oddone and George Crowcroft like this.
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    60,277
    43,951
    Feb 11, 2005
    The Rock was a good, lil fighter. Lotsa pluck and such that old wags go on and on about (you know, the stuff America is missing these days)...

    But let's not discuss him against man-sized men.
     
    Seamus, Jul 12, 2020
    Seamus, Jul 12, 2020
    #227
    CharlesBurley, lufcrazy, mcvey and 1 other person like this.
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

    2,665
    2,681
    Jan 28, 2018
    :elefant::lupie::elefant::lupie::elefant::lupie::elefant::wizard::elefant::lupie::elefant::lupie::elefant::lupie::elefant:
    The anthropomorphic adventures of choki chok.

    Down the Rabbit Hole, go ask Alice, where a fella from Brockton — is ten feet tall!
    When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead, and the White Knight is talking backwards, and the Red Queen's off with her head, remember what the Dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head, feard your head!
    And he thinks to himself, what a wonderful world.....
    :polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso::osvaisacagar::ura::zlumi::polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso::tmnt::polutxoso:
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2020
    GOAT Primo Carnera, Jul 12, 2020
    GOAT Primo Carnera, Jul 12, 2020
    #228
    mcvey and George Crowcroft like this.
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    26,960
    44,451
    Mar 3, 2019
    Joe Mesi never lost. Would you pick him to beat Muhammad Ali?

    After all it would certainly suit your narrative in which people pick black fighters over white fighters in an attempt to belittle the white fighters.
     
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    #229
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    18,692
    19,826
    Jul 30, 2014
    Speaking of Mesi, he's a politician in my hometown!
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    #230
    choklab and George Crowcroft like this.
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    26,960
    44,451
    Mar 3, 2019
    Didn't he live in Buffalo? That's pretty sweet if he's all-good now. I thought things would be pretty poor for him now with the brain injury (although I don't know more than those two words and it stopped him from fighting).
     
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    #231
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    18,692
    19,826
    Jul 30, 2014
    I mean, shiiiit Johnny Carr not only never lost, but he has a 100% KO Percentage. Surely he's a lock to beat Liston based on that?
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    #232
    Oddone and George Crowcroft like this.
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    26,960
    44,451
    Mar 3, 2019
    Don't forget the GOAT, Freddie Flintoff!
     
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    George Crowcroft, Jul 12, 2020
    #233
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  9. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

    6,024
    13,144
    Aug 18, 2019
    I lol’d.
     
    Oddone, Jul 12, 2020
    Oddone, Jul 12, 2020
    #234
    George Crowcroft and swagdelfadeel like this.
  10. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,708
    1,345
    Dec 17, 2009
    36-0 vs low rated fighters.

    Liston lost to a guy named Marty Marshall who retired 24-14

    According to this forum Marciano literally loses 90% of the time to fighters with melanin in their skin.
     
    outtieDrake, Jul 12, 2020
    outtieDrake, Jul 12, 2020
    #235
    Brockton Rock, choklab and SerbianLoudmouth like this.
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    80,162
    20,817
    Sep 15, 2009
    Very strong use of the word literally.
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 12, 2020
    lufcrazy, Jul 12, 2020
    #236
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,614
    11,427
    Mar 23, 2019
    I think Marciano would lose by SD in a 15 round fight, and probably get floored along the way. It would be a GREAT fight, but Liston's jab and uppercut would make the difference. No doubt Liston would be rocked a few times in the fight, staggered. I think Rocky would persist, but run into that left hand time and again and get badly swoll up by the 12th. I can't see Liston stopping him, though, and I believe one judge would give it to Rocky just because of his aggressive perseverance

    However, in rematches I see him beating Liston on a SD (I'm sure Rocky would have learned from the first fight and figured out a way to either lessen the impact, roll with, nad/or evade the jab), then making him quit or stopping him in 8 during the rubber match.
     
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Jul 12, 2020
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Jul 12, 2020
    #237
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    18,692
    19,826
    Jul 30, 2014
    I think it's safe to say neither fight is going the distance. I also think you're wrong to assume that Marciano would've "figured out a way to either lessen the impact, roll with, nad/or evade the jab" he was pretty much one-dimensional and never really showed an ability to adjust (though in his defense he never had to). As a matter of fact, Liston was among the best at making mid-fight tactical changes to his gameplan to suit him.
    And again, Liston was not a quitter. He quit ONCE, against the greatest of all time, while in his mid 30s, likely older, had seen all of 3 rounds in three years, and had a known injury going into the bout. Why does nobody talk about his valiant performances against Valdez, Dejohn, Williams, and Marshall where he refused to give in to adversity.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    #238
    RulesMakeItInteresting likes this.
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    18,692
    19,826
    Jul 30, 2014
    How many fights did Liston have at that point? Who was Marciano fighting at that stage in his career?
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 12, 2020
    #239
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  15. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    2,065
    1,875
    Feb 23, 2020
    What happened to that guy? Why didn't he cash out?
     
    CharlesBurley, Jul 12, 2020
    CharlesBurley, Jul 12, 2020
    #240
Page 16 of 50