Why was this guy so hyped by people like Max Kellerman (who in reality knows very little to nothing about Boxing) Judah had a Glass Jaw, no heart, no ring IQ, and mediocre stamina. He had speed the first 3 or 4 rounds of a fight then significantly fell off. He quit in multiple fights in his career by blatantly faking injuries trying to get the other fighter DQed or hoping the fight would be stopped and go to the scorecards so he could 'win'. I do understand he was from NYC which did help him with the media machine. I can remember all the trash he talked before he got his Glass Jaw shattered by Kostya Tszyu. On Friday Night Fights, Kellerman called him "Sweet Pea with power" which couldn't have been further from the actual truth it was downright delusional. Thoughts?
Max kellerman has been covering boxing for 20 years. What makes you so confident you know more about professional boxing than he does? Moreover where do you get off saying he knows nothing at all? The audacity In any case, judah was a world champion. Your description of him wreaks of someone whos extend of knowledge is derived from the fact that you just watched him fight Mayweather on YouTube
Young Judah was legitimately talented, and developed quickly. He held a title when he was barely 22. Its understandable why he was hyped at the time.
His analysis sucks, he knows a lot about the sport historically which is why a lot of people assume he's knowledgeable. But it's different being able to recall past events and understanding the nuances of what is happening in the ring.
This thread is quite odd i must say Kellerman, regardless of anyones thoughts on him as a person has good boxing knowledge You dont cover the sport for as long as he has without learning Zab was a hell of a talented boxer too Yeah, there's a case for a lack of heart But he got in the ring More than most would do He never fulfilled his potential is a more suitable assessment of him rather than the character assignation post we have here
Sounds like a case of differing opinions. The guy has been around fighters and covering fights for decades. What makes you so confident his takes are so invalid compared to yours as opposed to just two people seeing something differently?
Judah lacked heart n maybe abit of brains... But glass jawed?? Speed for 3 rounds??? Getting banged out by kostya tszyu catching you with a clean right doesn't make him glass jawed... I don't remember him being laid out by anyone featherfisted... Judah was a flawed fighter who looking at his physical tools, speed and power etc could've probably been alot better... Unfortunately fir him he didn't have it mentally and buckled under pressure... I'd say it was obvious why he was hyped.... He was still a world champion and achieved more than anyone on here posting And I really didn't like judah Commentators knowledgeable as they are will make dumbass comments sometimes.... Personal favourite was whichever bellend compared luke Campbell to Oscar de la hoya.... And this is in terms of skills.. Not the gold medal
Well, he was hyped because he was Whitaker's stablemate and because they had a similar style. He didn't turn out to be a Whitaker clone, but I don't blame Max Kellerman for thinking he might be. Judah was looking really good until he got KO'd by Tszyu, an all time great. Judah was a very good fighter, not a great one.
I think the days of the non-boxer analyst are coming to an end. Kellerman has never boxed so there is a hard stop on how much he can know about what he's watching. That's just the way it is. There will always be a seat for the fast talking play by play guy like Lamps - he's basically just a hype man. I would rather listen to joe schmoe golden gloves winner provide analysis than a Kellerman type. Let's not even discuss guys like Mark Kreigel who have absolutely no idea what they're watching and bring up totally irrelevant nonsense about how a cutman just lost his father or some ****.
Lol at this. As for my thoughts... you shouldn’t let your dislike cloud your judgement. While coming up Zab had incredible hand speed, great reflexes, knockout power and underrated defense, Judah was ripping through the competition. He was exciting as hell to watch, and he honestly looked unstoppable. Yeah no idea why anyone would think highly of a guy who within a few years of turning pro was a world champion... He held multiple world championships in two weight classes, having held the IBF and WBO junior welterweight titles between 2000 and 2004 and the undisputed welterweight title in 2005, which included a reign as the lineal champion from 2005 to 2006. He held the IBF junior welterweight title again in 2011. It will forever be a mystery and all hype I guess. /sarcasm Unfortunately no one could see inside his mind or spirit. Cus D’Amato said boxing is at least fifty percent mental. Zab didn’t have it in that department and that, plus ego, lead to the Tszyu fight and the whole attacking the ref atrocity after he lost. Once his speed diminished he went the way of most speedy boxers who’s speed leaves. Gate keeper. See: Amir Khan, Gamboa, Etc etc. In short people “hyped” Judah because they saw his talent. Talent that led to multiple championships in different weights. Other people who allow their dislike for fighters personalities get to them (Zab is a fcukwit) and cloud their judgement say he was hype. He wasn’t. He was a good but not great champion.
These are the opponents he beat for the belts he won: Jan Piet Bergman Chop Chop Corley Cory Spinks (who Judah had previously lost to) Kaizer Mabuza That isn't a murders row of opposition. Judah folded in just about every big fight he was in. He was embarrassed in most of his losses. He had a Glass Jaw, no heart, no Ring IQ, and no stamina. None. That is quite the quadfecta to have for a prizefighter. I've posted this on here before but if Judah was from Nashville Tennessee or Charlotte North Carolina instead of Brooklyn New York nobody would know who he was. His location provided most of his mystique and hype. When it came down to it Judah was a dog who had quit in him who couldn't fight. That's a far cry from being "Sweet Pea with power" like Kellerman claimed. Nobody who knows anything about boxing would make such a ridiculous and laughable statement. Kellerman also said Glass Jaw Roy Jones would beat Joe Frazier so maybe I shouldn't be surprised at such ridiculous statements from a supposed 'expert'
Your Opinion, about the quality of this or that, is just that... Your opinion. You are entitled to it. At first I thought your post was a real genuine knowledge seeking thread. Now I understand it’s a way for you to vent. To ignore facts you don’t like in favor of your own opinion against the posts above countering your opinion. That’s fine too. To each his own. Though, the fact that you could aim your dislike at a host of other lesser champions and don’t is a little concerning. Did Zab do something to you personally? “You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is observing everything with logic.” Bruce Lee. Fact: He was a multiple time world champion in multiple weight classes. That’s not hype. Fact: No one with “No Ring IQ” could have won rounds against Floyd Mayweather Jr. Which he did as the scorecards are public knowledge. He will go down in history as a good but not great champion in multiple weights.
Your expert analysis seems to rely completely on hindsight. Not only that, you seem to think people who were wrong or had a different view something without said hindsight must have had an agenda. Believe it or not some people just watch boxing and let it play out and base their opinions off of what they see happen inside the ring and those opinions change accordingly as more information/film is available. You don't have to be able to predict the arc of a guys entire career from the very beginning to have a qualified opinion on boxing