Do People Actually Accept The Reality That Pac Walked Away From Mayweather...?

When was this?

 

2010.

 

Floyd never wanted the fight back then.

 

When it comes to avoiding fights lots of guys have Mayweather beat.

 

Your analogy doesn’t hold up.

Before any official negotiations, Floyd and Manny negotiated back and forth through the media for around 6 months. And not once did Floyd mention that he wanted Manny or any of his future opponents to partake in OSDT. That’s a fact.

Floyd Snr then spoke out and accused Manny of cheating. Then when official negotiations took place, Floyd wanted OSTD. Now the boxing landscape was very different back then. Fighters didn’t do that. Manny didn’t do it, Floyd didn’t do it, and neither did any of their opponents.

Manny didn’t refuse to be tested. But he wanted a cut off due to what had happened against Morales in 2005.

Manny requested a cut off, that included after fight blood and urine tests.

Floyd agreed in principle, but not on the number of days which Manny wanted.

They went back and forth but they couldn’t reach a compromise.

In the end, Floyd said that he’d grant 14 days or there would be no fight.

Manny refused.

They then went their separate ways and fought other opponents.

Manny then went back and agreed to Floyd’s 14 day cut off proposal. That’s when Floyd and Ellerbe should have tried to make the fight. But they didn’t. Floyd said no, before trying to pay Manny a flat fee out of a fight that ended up grossing $400m.

In 2012, Manny then publicly agreed to full testing, including up to the day of the fight. And seeing as though the testing issue was supposed to be the only real stumbling block in preventing the fight from happening, Floyd and Ellerbe should have jumped on that and tried to have made the fight. Yet nothing happened.

In November, 2013, Manny then backed up his claim by partaking in OSDT with Brandon Rios.

Floyd and Manny eventually fought in May, 2015.

You don’t have to be a genius to work out that it wasn’t the testing that prevented an earlier fight from taking place.

Floyd was spooked.

 

You have created a thread yet you have absolutely no intention whatsoever of debating the subject.

Come back and refute what I’ve said.

Everything I’ve said is factual and can be backed up.

 

Okay.

Just give me a logical reason why Floyd didn’t try and make the fight in 2010 and 2012, when Manny had agreed to give him what he said that he wanted.

 

Masking PEDs for an agency that was in his pocket already?

That makes zero sense.

 

You want to give us some details? Dates?

“Manny went back and ...” — Where did he go back to? When did he go back there?

By that do you mean he said publicly at some later date that he’d do it? Did he sign a contract agreeing to testing?

This is vague. He was offered the fight with the condition and he made up some excuse about being afraid of needles lol and turned it down.

 

We’re not privy to the specifics, but we have more than enough information to know the following:

Floyd wasn’t severely dehydrated.

Floyd tried to add a retroactive TUE clause into the fight contract before he signed off on it.

Floyd was caught having had an illegal IV, which should have been classed as a medical emergency.

USADA didn’t notify the NSAC.

The NSAC had no knowledge of what had happened until 3 weeks after the fight.

 

May, 2010.

Manny told the media that he’d agree to the 14 days.

Floyd never went back to negotiate.

He then offered to pay Manny a flat fee of $40m, with no share of PPV revenue, from a fight which ended up grossing around $400m.

Manny then agreed to full OSTD in 2012, and backed it up by doing it with Rios in 2013.

They finally fought each other in May, 2015.

It seems obvious to me that it was never about the testing.

 

It would seem more obvious that you have a certain obsession.