Do People Actually Accept The Reality That Pac Walked Away From Mayweather...?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    With what?

    I’m not even a fan of Manny’s.

    You know that.

    You know that I think that Floyd was better and that he’d always have beaten Manny.

    You know that from our previous debates.

    I’m not a Manny fanboy and a Floyd hater.

    I’m just calling it as I see it.

    Floyd didn’t want to fight Manny back in 2010-2011.

    His family had him spooked.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Floyd took the biggest money fights he could get and it’s really that simple. Didn’t matter if it were McGregor in a glorified exhibition or Canelo at a massive size and age disadvantage.

    Arum was the guy restricting his own fighters to fighting within his stable. Floyd beat Pac as soon as Arum allowed it.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd clearly didn’t want to fight Manny earlier.

    It’s obvious to any non fanboy.

    His uncle and father were feeding his head.

    The fact that the fight happened 3 years after Manny agreed to everything speaks volumes.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Show me the fights from 140-154 that happened between an Arum fighter and an unaffiliated fighter in the last 15 years.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don’t blame Bob Arum.

    Floyd told the world for 2-3 years straight that Manny was holding up the fight by not agreeing to his testing demands. He said that in every interview of the time. Over and over. Yet when Manny agreed to everything, the fight took a further 3 years to make.

    Floyd waited for Manny to slow down.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Sop ducking the question. Didn't read your response.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    Get real.

    You have completely ignored 2 posts that I’ve put to you, and have quoted one that I sent to another member instead.

    Yeah, it was Bob Arum’s fault why a fight didn’t happen earlier, and Floyd really needed that saline after losing 3 pounds in 30 days which left him so dehydrated.
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    When you add up all his stunts he should have been banned from the sport ages ago. Instead they still regard him as a super star. NSAC & Vegas boxing are the cess pit of the sport in my estimation
    "Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong" ROFL He only broke 3 of NSAC's own rules regarding saline treatment for suspected dehydration LOL but he,s special I guess
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Sure he was masking he sure as hell wasn't dehydrated
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pac obviously applied for & received a TUE for Celestone the correct procedure
    1...Floyd never applied for a TUE
    2...Floyd was receiving the saline Illegally in his own home & NOT a required medical facility
    3...He was receiving many times the amount a medical facility would administer for dehydration.
    There are THREE violations of the NSAC's OWN RULES Yet they granted him a retroactive TUE THREE weeks after he was caught red handed!!!!!! Can you spell corruption?????
     
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  11. Saintpat

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    Fourteen days is a joke answer. A guy can do a full cycle of enough PEDs to embarrass Lance Armstrong and have them flushed of his system two weeks out and keep all of the edge gained.

    So it was two years later — after he refused a career-high purse — that he said he’d agree to testing. And when in 2012 did he offer this, after his first loss that year or his second.

    Hey, Floyd was ready to fight him and Manny decided no testing. Then joke testing (which he said knowing it was bull**** but could play well to his fans that he agreed to 14 days lol). And a couple years later, after the ship has sailed, he decides he’ll take full testing so Floyd is supposed to come running to him.

    Nah.
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you have a source for that?
     
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  13. Berlenbach

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    The joke is that one of Pacquaio's TUE requests before the fight was rejected, because he had not given sufficient notice. Obviously he wasn't aware of how this all works: you break the rules first and then apply for your exemption 20 days later.

    Imagine if we found out a sprinter had been hooked up to an illegal IV the day before he won Olympic gold and only applied for an exemption three weeks later. I daresay someone else would have that gold medal now.
     
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  14. Bokaj

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    Yeah. And Floyd was likely fully aware of this when he made the demand. Maybe Pac wasn't, since he refused... Hard to know for sure what their motivations truly were.
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that Floyd's IV and Pac not being allowed to take a painkiller more or less make the result of that fight void. It's hard to see how they got an equal treatment and these things taken together can certainly have changed the outcome of the fight.